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There have always been degenerates in America. And America is not the only nation with degenerates around. However, from living in this country, this is what I see. The degenerates just don't care. There has always been a segment of society like this.
There have always been degenerates in America. And America is not the only nation with degenerates around. However, from living in this country, this is what I see. The degenerates just don't care. There has always been a segment of society like this.
Very good post. We also have subcultures in America that encourage and praise degenerate behavior. When you have a massive melting pot country full of people from all over the world, naturally many will be degenerates that relate to subcultures who encourage the behavior and attitude.
It’s very sad for society. Look no further than organized crime, gang culture, prison culture, hate group culture, urban culture, urban music culture etc. that all glorify degenerate behavior. Going to jail or shooting someone up is “cool.” I guess it also doesn’t hurt that we have the most humane prisons on earth.
Poor defense posts of a fair question
Why the bad behavior ?
Sometimes the observations of an outsider are useful -instead of telling them to have their vision checked maybe we should listen
Very good post. We also have subcultures in America that encourage and praise degenerate behavior. When you have a massive melting pot country full of people from all over the world, naturally many will be degenerates that relate to subcultures who encourage the behavior and attitude.
It’s very sad for society. Look no further than organized crime, gang culture, prison culture, hate group culture, urban culture, urban music culture etc. that all glorify degenerate behavior. Going to jail or shooting someone up is “cool.” I guess it also doesn’t hurt that we have the most humane prisons on earth.
Actually, this degeneracy has been around even going back to the early days of America. Even before America was a melting pot. Go read Thomas Sowell's Black Rednecks and White Liberals.
This stuff is not just limited to the urban areas. I live in a semi-rural(kind of suburb though), predominantly White area where meth and heroin use has gone up alot over the past 10 years. I went to school with degenerates, both White and Black. Not just "urban culture", alot of "redneck culture" where I live.
As for our prisons, Scandinavia has the world's most humane prisons. Not nearly as much degeneracy as in the USA. American prisons are some of the scariest places to go to. Plenty of gangs and violence inside of American prisons. All the prisons really do is warehouse prisons until a certain date. It is not the "humaneness" of our prisons. It is that the prisoners get so used to being in violent situations and/or being institutionalized that they don't know how to function outside of prison.Russia has some of the toughest prisons on the planet, and yet, Russia has a murder rate 2 to 3 times as high as the USA.
I'll give a recent example. I'm walking down a busy road when out of nowhere someone tosses a drink at me. Add to that random people in passerby cars who scream things just for the hell of it. Such behavior would be unthinkable in my home country (by the way I'm from a small European country). I also know bored suburban teenagers who have nothing better to do on weekend nights than to go out and vandalize people's property. Most of them do drugs, which also seems to be the norm in this country. I've never encountered such a high degree of inconsiderate idiocy as I have in this country. What is it about your society that produces such degenerates? I expected Americans to be a civilized people.
I think a huge contributing factor is simply that bad behavior is widely tolerated if not entirely excused.
People frown on anyone expecting any reasonable level of accountability or integrity...to do so is to "judge" and that is considered unfair and not nice by the liberals who ironically judge anyone with actual standards for civilized behavior it seems.
Let's be real: the Ruling Class uses the Media to deliver the ultra-left message that there can be NO societal censure for ANY kind of behavior, no matter how destructive to society. Being a "single mother" is not only acceptable, but it's now the norm. Not working when you are perfectly healthy carries no disgrace; in fact, those who work are considered suckers for selling the vast majority of their lives into slavery while not even receiving a better quality of life than those who choose to do nothing but increase the vast number of "needy."
Of course, you can't have a stable society when our political leaders long ago figured out how to sow turmoil: use open-door immigration, combined with government mandates to "integrate" groups that have virtually nothing in common. Too bad they don't practice what they preach, but they are far too important to risk mixing with the peons (unless they are uniformed servants, of course). Add the destruction of small businesses and the protection of mega-corporations, and now you can't get anyone under the age of 50 to do anything--other than roam the streets, text their peers, and loudly lecture their elders with the sound-bite brilliance of whatever liberal media outlet their peers told them to listen to.
Why does Big Government want societal unrest and removal of all standards? Because it creates a perfect recipe for getting low-IQ people ("More geese than swans now live; more fools than wise") to jump at to the "Big Government will save you!" message the Media endlessly promotes.
I think a huge contributing factor is simply that bad behavior is widely tolerated if not entirely excused.
People frown on anyone expecting any reasonable level of accountability or integrity...to do so is to "judge" and that is considered unfair and not nice by the liberals who ironically judge anyone with actual standards for civilized behavior it seems.
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Originally Posted by NHartphotog
Let's be real: the Ruling Class uses the Media to deliver the ultra-left message that there can be NO societal censure for ANY kind of behavior, no matter how destructive to society. Being a "single mother" is not only acceptable, but it's now the norm. Not working when you are perfectly healthy carries no disgrace; in fact, those who work are considered suckers for selling the vast majority of their lives into slavery while not even receiving a better quality of life than those who choose to do nothing but increase the vast number of "needy."
Of course, you can't have a stable society when our political leaders long ago figured out how to sow turmoil: use open-door immigration, combined with government mandates to "integrate" groups that have virtually nothing in common. Too bad they don't practice what they preach, but they are far too important to risk mixing with the peons (unless they are uniformed servants, of course). Add the destruction of small businesses and the protection of mega-corporations, and now you can't get anyone under the age of 50 to do anything--other than roam the streets, text their peers, and loudly lecture their elders with the sound-bite brilliance of whatever liberal media outlet their peers told them to listen to.
Why does Big Government want societal unrest and removal of all standards? Because it creates a perfect recipe for getting low-IQ people ("More geese than swans now live; more fools than wise") to jump at to the "Big Government will save you!" message the Media endlessly promotes.
Baseless finger pointing towards liberals. So much for the party of personal responsibility. No self awareness found on the right as evidence of these two post.
The decades of fear mongering from Conservative fear mongering from talk radio to Fox News and now Trump is completely innocent to this current situation.
OP: American culture is very shallow - many people value materialism above all else, therefore do not teach their children any humanitarian or even cultured values - most don't teach manners - it's all about money, fast food, sports, fast food - and lots and lots of super dumb people (not sure what accounts for that).
The public schools are indoctrination camps - nothing of value is taught in the schools (no comprehensive study of literature for example - critical thinking is frowned upon in favor of "teach to the test."
Just a bunch of uncultured idiots who left behind their country of origin's values and didn't pick up any in the process.
Is there a reason you desire to be in such a country as opposed to your county of origin?
Baseless finger pointing towards liberals. So much for the party of personal responsibility. No self awareness found on the right as evidence of these two post. The decades of fear mongering from Conservative fear mongering from talk radio to Fox News and now Trump is completely innocent to this current situation.
The above in response to these posts:
(1) by SoHoVe: "I think a huge contributing factor is simply that bad behavior is widely tolerated if not entirely excused. People frown on anyone expecting any reasonable level of accountability or integrity...to do so is to "judge" and that is considered unfair and not nice by the liberals who ironically judge anyone with actual standards for civilized behavior it seems."
(2) by NHartphotog: "Let's be real: the Ruling Class uses the Media to deliver the ultra-left message that there can be NO societal censure for ANY kind of behavior, no matter how destructive to society. Being a "single mother" is not only acceptable, but it's now the norm. Not working when you are perfectly healthy carries no disgrace; in fact, those who work are considered suckers for selling the vast majority of their lives into slavery while not even receiving a better quality of life than those who choose to do nothing but increase the vast number of "needy."
Of course, you can't have a stable society when our political leaders long ago figured out how to sow turmoil: use open-door immigration, combined with government mandates to "integrate" groups that have virtually nothing in common. Too bad they don't practice what they preach, but they are far too important to risk mixing with the peons (unless they are uniformed servants, of course). Add the destruction of small businesses and the protection of mega-corporations, and now you can't get anyone under the age of 50 to do anything--other than roam the streets, text their peers, and loudly lecture their elders with the sound-bite brilliance of whatever liberal media outlet their peers told them to listen to.
Why does Big Government want societal unrest and removal of all standards? Because it creates a perfect recipe for getting low-IQ people ("More geese than swans now live; more fools than wise") to jump at to the "Big Government will save you!" message the Media endlessly promotes."]
Why is it "baseless finger pointing" when someone refers to the Liberal Left's well-acknowledged and vehement censure of any criticism of behavior that is bad for society (single motherhood, welfare abuse, illegal immigrants, etc.)? Pundits of the Republican Party (consisting of both religious conservatives & taxpayer advocates / fiscal conservatives) are only ones ones who publicly criticize bad societal behavior--even though those important enough to get media attention are instantly targeted and demonized by the liberal media and liberal politicians/celebrities (i.e., Maxine Waters and President Trump).
What does the snide comment "So much for the party of personal responsibility" refer to? If the argument is that the Right is to blame for the unfairness of society and that is the cause of degeneracy (while a "fair" society would eliminate bad behavior), consider that the political systems on the far Left are Socialism and Communism--not exactly the wellsprings of fairness, societal happiness, or lack of crime/degeneracy.
As to "No self awareness found on the right as evidence of these two post" (sic), what self awareness does the poster refer to? Someone with self awareness might understand that a post is meaningless if it is so vague that nobody understands even what is being criticized.
The poster concludes by blaming degeneracy on "fear mongering" by Conservatives, Fox News, Trump, and "talk radio" (the last being a merely a communication platform). Apparently, these people/groups shouldn't be reporting on (or stating their own outrage about) negative societal statistics: unmarried women comprise 40% of U.S. birthshttps://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr67/nvsr67_01.pdf ; the strongest predictor of ending up in jail is being raised by a single mother https://www.fixfamilycourts.com/sing...ome-statistics ; illegal immigration costs taxpayers $116 billion annuallyhttps://www.fairus.org/issue/publica...tes-taxpayers; etc.
I absolutely disagree: no effort will be made to solve the decline of society unless Americans are aware of the individual problems and issues, and get outraged enough to demand action. For doing this, I thank President Trump, who managed to slip under the Ultra-Left Ruling Class's stranglehold on the political system and get elected President.
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