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Old 10-12-2010, 12:16 AM
 
Location: Interior AK
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Thanks for the link Kele. I'd read a few of the references that paper cites, but I think L. Aielo pulled it all together nicely in an easily digested package (yes, pun most certainly intended ).

Thank you also for reiterating that chosing to be a vegetarian does not make one an Herbivore.

It's nice to be able to chose what we eat -- greatest thing about being an Omnivore is possessing the physical ability to chose to be vegetarian, if you want to be, with a little planning!
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Old 10-12-2010, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I'm a vegetarian. I choose to eat this way because I feel that it's better for my health.

But I'm also a scientist. To state that Homo sapien sapien evolved to eat a vegetarian diet is without scientific merit. Additionally, such unequivocal nonsense does a great disservice to the enormous amount of evidence to the contrary and the actual research that went into it.

Might I suggest a little light reading? The Expensive Tissue Hypothesis, by Leslie Aielo, does an excellent job of explaining the role of meat in the evolution of H. sapien. Of course H. sapiens evolved as omnivores, but the eating of meat played a huge role in the brain development of early hominids, the ancestors of H. sapien.

Brazilian Journal of Genetics - Brains and guts in human evolution: The Expensive Tissue Hypothesis
Personally I believe that a vegetarian diet today, is far more realistic today. Our ancestors hardly had a choice in what they ate, if they ate at all. For them, it was a matter of survival, and our omnivore tendencies is a wonderful biological advantage.

The idea that those who came before us would pass up meat or anything else to eat is silly, at best.

But today, we are much more intelligent about what foods and nutrients we need to survive. Plants are abundant in this country, so you can take meat off the table, eating specific plant materials that meet our biological needs. Ancient man didn't have that luxury.
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Old 10-13-2010, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Visitation between Wal-Mart & Home Depot
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Personally I believe that a vegetarian diet today, is far more realistic today. Our ancestors hardly had a choice in what they ate, if they ate at all. For them, it was a matter of survival, and our omnivore tendencies is a wonderful biological advantage.

The idea that those who came before us would pass up meat or anything else to eat is silly, at best.

But today, we are much more intelligent about what foods and nutrients we need to survive. Plants are abundant in this country, so you can take meat off the table, eating specific plant materials that meet our biological needs. Ancient man didn't have that luxury.
This reminds me of Drugs Delaney's letter...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZBd--uzE28
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Old 10-13-2010, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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We are omnivores...go look at your teeth incisors and molars
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Old 10-14-2010, 11:47 AM
 
Location: NC, USA
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An omnivore eats both meat and vegetable.
So by definition, an omnivore would also be a carnivore.
Only in the sense that they both have to eat to sustain life. Leopards are carnivores, the preponderance of their diet is meat, of one kind or another, same with dogs and house cats, upon occasion, they will eat grasses to aid digestion. Raccoons and Opossums are omnivores, so are humans, we have sharp teeth AND, flat molars (cows, buffalo, goats et al do not have canine teeth) Lions, Leopards, wolves et al do not have true molars for grinding grasses and/or grains. There are three major distinctions in qualifying diet, herbivores, carnivores, and omnivores they are not overlapping terms.
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Old 10-14-2010, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Interior AK
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There's still a small debate when you get to the edges of the carnivore and herbivore classifications regarding the exact dietary percentage at which they are more truly an omnivore; but the teeth, digestive system and nutritional requirements are good indicators. Some omnivores have stronger meat/animal diets, and some have stronger veg/fruit diets... but they're still omnivores.
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Old 10-14-2010, 09:40 PM
 
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WRONG--- we are omnivores- always have been. Vegetarians are LIARS.
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Old 10-15-2010, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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WRONG--- we are omnivores- always have been. Vegetarians are LIARS.
Well lets be fair here. Our natural diet was made up of considerably more nuts, berries, and plant matter than it is now. Americans eat WAY to much meat, which is why we have as many health issues as we have. Ever wonder why peoples arteries clog up? To much meat, plain and simple. Mainly, to much red meat.

So in the aspect that humans naturally only ate vegetables, thats wrong. But to say that our diet has always been in the state it is today, that couldn't be further than the truth. My grandfather used to tell me they were lucky to eat meat twice a week, and that was in the 40's and 50's. Now most folks don't go a day without eating meat three times a day or more.
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Old 10-15-2010, 01:56 PM
 
Location: United States
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Meat is good for you
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Old 10-16-2010, 01:24 AM
 
Location: Tujunga
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Its easy to see your not a natural vegetarian, just look at those canine teeth in the front of your mouth.
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