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Old 11-20-2018, 04:05 PM
 
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It is tricky, pot stays in the system so long.

So pot shows up on a test and your employer is worried that you are impaired on the jobs........safest thing to do is can the person, especially from a liability standpoint.
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Old 11-20-2018, 07:36 PM
 
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In most states where it's available as either and both recreational and medical, it is in process of being removed from testing. If it isn't removed already. With the exception of heavy machinery use, driving for cities and states, and jobs requiring you to be armed.

There's other conditions listed as well.

I believe it should be removed from testing altogether. It's not right to smoke a joint Friday or Saturday Night to relax and fail a screen on Monday. Or 2 weeks later.
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Old 11-20-2018, 07:46 PM
 
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Default Any company should be able to test for drugs

As a marijuana user, I have no problem with pre employment testing. If I am looking for a job I will be sure not to have any in my system. It's an intelligence test if nothing else.

I don't work in medicine or transportation, around machinery, or with firearms. The work I do isn't affected if I have 5ng/ml of THC metabolite in my blood. So in principal I'm against testing, if it doesn't include an alcohol test that registers how drunk you were 30 days ago.

However, I'm also for not restricting a business owner's right to choose who they hire. I would not want to hire a heroin or meth addict, even in Portugal where all drugs are legal, so I understand why some people will never believe marijuana isn't the Devil's lettuce.
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Old 11-22-2018, 01:51 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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In todays society we all know that drug screening (when jobs return) is an important part of the hiring process. With all the serious drugs such as heroine, crack, meth, etc. I would pre-screen too. Now alcohol is much more harmful than marijuana. Nobody tests for that. With the recent decriminalization of marijuana (not in all states) it should be removed from the list of drug test failures. Same rules would apply as with alcohol... 21 and older, not at work, etc. What do you think?

This link explains everything I already know. I'm a long time marijuana consumer... now age 40.

Reliable information about marijuana and its effects based on research and science, not disinformation and propaganda.

Myths and Facts About Marijuana
Employers should make the decision, not government. It's not a fireable offense to drink alcohol in many bars while flirting with employees to get them to buy more... yet I'm sure you can get fired if you're a gun range employee and drinking. It's up to the employer.
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Old 11-22-2018, 03:01 PM
 
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Employers should make the decision, not government. It's not a fireable offense to drink alcohol in many bars while flirting with employees to get them to buy more... yet I'm sure you can get fired if you're a gun range employee and drinking. It's up to the employer.
The problem is, many employers will do it, simply because Govt 'recommends' it.


My company does drug AND background testing on entry level cashiers at a gas station/convenience store!! Now how useless is that?


Of course, back in the 90s, this was not so important! LOL
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Old 11-25-2018, 01:44 PM
 
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I can think of a time when Boeing was building it's famed 727 transport, tons of stoners in the plant--and the 727 was one of the best aircraft the company ever built. Is that a reason to hire weed users, No, but it certainly speaks to the levels of madness in a society gone nuts over their irrational fears. The world is full of risk but very few deathly accidents can be attributed to pot usage, and I doubt that many in the Boeing plant were high during the work shift.
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Old 11-30-2018, 12:27 PM
 
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In todays society we all know that drug screening (when jobs return) is an important part of the hiring process. With all the serious drugs such as heroine, crack, meth, etc. I would pre-screen too. Now alcohol is much more harmful than marijuana. Nobody tests for that. With the recent decriminalization of marijuana (not in all states) it should be removed from the list of drug test failures. Same rules would apply as with alcohol... 21 and older, not at work, etc. What do you think?

This link explains everything I already know. I'm a long time marijuana consumer... now age 40.

Reliable information about marijuana and its effects based on research and science, not disinformation and propaganda.

Myths and Facts About Marijuana

Jobs DO test for alcohol as well.I think when one is going to apply for a job..if I was an employer,I would only hire people who can pass a drug AND alcohol test.I want sober people working for me and not anyone on any drugs or anyone coming to work with alcohol in their system....but that's just me I guess.
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Old 12-17-2018, 03:18 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Jobs DO test for alcohol as well.I think when one is going to apply for a job..if I was an employer,I would only hire people who can pass a drug AND alcohol test.I want sober people working for me and not anyone on any drugs or anyone coming to work with alcohol in their system....but that's just me I guess.
What kind of hypothetical business would you be running, though? And would it be affected by people doing drugs/alcohol on their own (non-work) time? Like if I were to go out drinking or smoke a joint on Saturday night, would it potentially affect my work on Monday?
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Old 12-19-2018, 04:43 PM
 
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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.




Maybe its legal technically but Drug testing is unamerican
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Old 12-19-2018, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Taos NM
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I think companies should worry a lot more about their workers coming in sleep deprived or hung over rather than being high at work. I've been high on marijuana at work numerous times (it helps break up monotonous days). I can still do my white collar tech job just fine. You want to see an unproductive employee, look at the person who can't keep their eyes open cause they don't sleep enough or the person who's hung over. Those people make mistakes all over.

To be fair, if I was in a job like a first responder, I could not perform my job as well high. Certain jobs where you have to be ON when the time hits require a sober mind. But this means that these people should also be fully awake and rested as well, not just caffinated.

Drug tests are just a filter lazy HR people use to try to weed out irresponsible individuals.
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