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I was thinking that a paternity test at birth would solve all this *who is your daddy* nonsense family court has to deal with. It sure would save a lot of money and time. So why aren't all newborns given a paternity test???
Oh great. Just what we need. More of Big Brother government intruding into our lives. I'm sure the global elite is in complete agreement with your idea. One step closer to their dream of a totalitarian government controlling every aspect of peoples' lives.
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I was thinking that a paternity test at birth would solve all this *who is your daddy* nonsense family court has to deal with. It sure would save a lot of money and time. So why aren't all newborns given a paternity test???
There are sh*tloads of newborns and the divorce rate is plenty high enough.
People do not, ideally, uphold personas of perfect families. They make their families as perfect as they can, and then bask in the warm sunlight of the family they have created, enduring some cloudy days. They don't give a crap what you think of their motives or strategies for maintaining domestic integrity.
That's the point you keep missing. People don't shape their family to meet external appearances, they shape it to fulfill their own needs for domestic tranquility. When all is not perfect, it's better to apply complacency to hold a family together, than spite to tear it apart.
that's the point you keep missing. its up to the families to decide what's best for them, not the courts. if a man is emotionally not up to the task of taking care of a child he was deceived into believing was his and no one elses, then no court in america should make him.
I was thinking that a paternity test at birth would solve all this *who is your daddy* nonsense family court has to deal with. It sure would save a lot of money and time. So why aren't all newborns given a paternity test???
ALL births?
When my wife & I had our 3 kids, there would have been no need. It was obvious, immediately, who the daddy was. Still is.
that's the point you keep missing. its up to the families to decide what's best for them, not the courts. if a man is emotionally not up to the task of taking care of a child he was deceived into believing was his and no one elses, then no court in america should make him.
You're welcome to walk out and abandon your wife and children if you want to. Have a nice day.
Meanwhile, it's up to families to decide if they want your stupid paternity test, and no court in America should make them.
Well it becomes my problem when my taxes are being used to support fatherless kids.
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Absolutely. If the kid isn't biologically the fathers, he should NOT have to pay for it...and any money he already did pay in child support should be repaid in full.
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Yeah ..that's the part that really irks me. Having to support something that isn't biologically mine.
You're talking in circles. If you want to be sure your baby is yours, then have a paternity test. Nobody is stopping you.
If no father is listed...then there is no father...that's an easy one. I would like to see this implemented when child support is awarded....meaning no child support until a DNA test proves the kid is indeed yours. I really can't see how one could be against this idea.
That is different than having every newborn tested.
If you are so concerned about your tax dollars supporting fatherless children shouldnt you focus on the situations where no father is listed? Where a father is listed, he is either the husband who by default is the father, or he has acknowledged paternity and accepted responsibility. In either situation, he pays cs so no need to worry about your $$. If a man is not married to the mother or does not sign the birth certificate he has every right to a dna test before paying any cs. I dont see where the problem is.
As far as some men raising a child that is not biologically theirs and having to pay child support in the event of divorce, well life is unfair sometimes just as with women raising children without support of the fathers.
More often what we have seen is husbands who have fathered illegitimate children with single women and wives who accept the indiscretion. You assume that the men who impregnated all these women that have deceived their husband into caring for a child that is not theirs biologically are single men, but in reality probably many are someone else’s husband. So you actually might have two indiscretions and would be destroying two families. Sometimes ignorance is bliss.
Haven't you heard It's all about the *kids*..men have no rights when it comes to being a father
No kidding. I think it's absolutely ridiculous to make a man support a child that is NOT his own, unless he knowingly and willingly WANTS to. My GOD, what about the man who actually did sire the kid?? So he gets to just walk away from his responsibilities so somebody else can do the job that is supposed to be his???
This is what pisses me off about society. People dont take responsiblilty for anything. If you went out and dropped your pants (man or woman) and made a child, that is NOT for some OTHER man (or woman) to take care of. (unless your adopting) I can't believe the GALL of people who think some poor guy who doesn't know his girlfriend or wife delivered some other man's spawn and called it his, should be made to pay for it if the truth comes to light. Find the real father and let HIM take care of it. You know the cheating b--tch probably has a real good idea who it is.
You talk about keeping the family together, and doing things "for the sake of the child". But let me ask you this. How many men could find out that their wife slept with some dude at work, and had his baby..and then raise that baby, in his home, as his own? WITHOUT TREATING THAT CHILD ANY DIFFERENTLY? Yeah, we should all only think of the child's feelings, blah blah blah. But see how that works in real life.
I think its a cop out to allow that mother, and the real baby's daddy to not have to face up to the choices and decisions (good or bad) they have made.
I find it interesting the number of men who say they could actually turn off all love and commitment for a child they thought was their own and loved as their own. And even go as far as wanting to be monetarily reimbursed for any money spent on them.
There have been several cases where babies were switched at birth and after discovering the mistake at least the mothers still had deep feelings and attachments to the baby that was not biologically hers. Im sure the children were tramatized when ripped from the parents they have know and thrust upon strangers.
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I can't believe the GALL of people who think some poor guy who doesn't know his girlfriend or wife delivered some other man's spawn and called it his, should be made to pay for it if the truth comes to light.
I think the reasoning for courts decision is that the dad assumed by default the responsibility for the child by actually raising it as his own as well as by accepting paternity by signing the birth certificate. If any man has a problem with this then he should ask for a dna test upon birth or not be involved with a women to begin with.
I was thinking that a paternity test at birth would solve all this *who is your daddy* nonsense family court has to deal with. It sure would save a lot of money and time. So why aren't all newborns given a paternity test???
I wouldn't make it a mandatory procedure, but I would like to see it offered as an option to all expectant mothers and fathers.
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It's all about the *kids*..men have no rights when it comes to being a father 
