What's so wrong with polygamy" (brainwash, federal, teenage, citizen)
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Don't you guys think this is tied to culture? I see this as less about morality and more about a societies mores. Of course, mores and morality are connected to culture.
If you're for polygamy, are you also in favor of polyandry?
Personally, I liked the way my tribe, the Muscogee Creeks did things before the european invasion. We were a matriarchal society. When a couple married, the new husband came to the wife's long house and lived with her family/clan. The new wife had six months to decide whether her new husband was worth keeping. During that time span, if she wasn't satisfied with him she could send him back to his clan/family, and she could remarry.
I didn't check all previous posts, so I may have missed it.
"What's wrong with multiple partners"?
[] Scratch the Bible. In the New Testament, it says that it's good for Bishops to have only one wife. Having many wives (and concubines) is not a moral lapse for Christians nor Jews.
Due to generations of socialist indoctrination, most don't know WHY monogamy was the law of the land.
Under the common law, marriage was a joining of the property rights of two for the benefit of the progeny - that union that no man could put asunder.
Adultery was for violating the blood line of descent - siring a child outside of the marriage contract. Grounds for divorce, etc, etc.
Marriage was not for love, but for passing property to the next generation.
Coincidentally, when the marriage was childless, the blood kin of the deceased spouse had a valid claim on the property. (See: curtesy and dower)
Moving on.
A man and two women are wed. Wife #1 has been barren. Wife #2 has a child. Man dies. Under the common law, wife #2 and child have a valid claim to the marriaged (joined) property. Wife #1 gets kicked to the curb, absent her property she brought into the marriage. OUCH.
Solution: criminalize bigamy. Wife #1 keeps marriage property. Wife #2 has no valid marriage. The child is illegitimate and cannot inherit from the father.
I am not implying any moral judgment. The issue is really based on property ownership and descent.
Since 1935, duly enumerated socialist Americans no longer have common law property rights, so the issue is moot.
If you're for polygamy, are you also in favor of polyandry?
Personally, I'm for the freedom of all consenting adults to do as they wish with other consenting adults, so long as no non-consenting individuals are harmed.
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Originally Posted by jetgraphics
[] Scratch the Bible. In the New Testament, it says that it's good for Bishops to have only one wife. Having many wives (and concubines) is not a moral lapse for Christians nor Jews.
Just curious- do you have the verse where this is found?
I am having a bit of difficulty finding five or six more women to be my wives. The ones who would have me, I don't want, and, the ones I want won't have me.
I am having a bit of difficulty finding five or six more women to be my wives. The ones who would have me, I don't want, and, the ones I want won't have me.
Because it breeds selfishness, sexism, and perversion. A close family friend grew up in this type of family. Unfortunately her mother was the prettiest and the favorite. Great for mom but NOT for her children. The first wife (NOT THE FAVORITE) was relegated to housework and tending children while her royal cuteness got to go to all of the social events etc. Everyone wondered why my friend wasn't growing like she should. It turns out that wife #1 was poisoning her and her siblings. Moreover, women need communication and if a husband and wife have a disagreement he will NOT make attempts to talk it out. He will simply switch beds and ignore you until you become lonely and desperate enough to overlook whatever he has done. This is the opposite of what marriage should be. Two people learning each other and themselves. this can't happen with a third party. There is also no love without sacrifice. There is no sacrifice as a husband/wife when you have spares around to replace them when you aren't getting your way at the moment. I won't even touch having 2 husbands on deck. And as a gut reaction.....Eeew !!
There's obviously a lot of abuse going on here. I can tell you all sorts of awful stories of abusive spouses and murderous spouses and cheaters and people who poisoned their spouse too. Should we use abusive marriages as the example for monogamous marriage and thereby declare monogamous marriage immoral?
There are healthy polyamorous relationships. I know cause I'm in one. All three of us are very happy. One of the three of us is considering dating to have another girlfriend, and the other two of us are totally fine with it. We discuss our feelings and make sure we're all on the same page. Sure, we have our arguments just like anyone else, but I would argue our relationship is actually much healthier than a lot of monogamous heterosexuals. How healthy or abusive a relationship is doesn't have to do with whether it's monogamous or polygamous, it has to do with the people in it.
So long as a Person pretends there is no Theistic Personal Creator , anything is permissible for him/her to engage in and there really is nothing that is immoral or wrong...for, it is only ones opinion . This popular philosophy of today whereby one simply suppresses the existence of God and ones moral conscience is very liberating because it eliminates any roadblocks to complete indulgence . Its quite convenient to ones chosen lifestyle...however in the final analysis , it all suddenly comes crashing down . Then One feels utter regret for having willfully duped himself as eternity is faced. (Been going on for many centuries now ; its always better to live by Gods moral mandates for our own good and to live FOR him whilst there is still time. No one will regret doing so) .
Hmm...I'm atheist but I have a very definite sense of what I consider to be immoral. I think any non-consensual sexual relations are definitely immoral. Stealing, murdering, lying...I find all those to be immoral. But I don't need a god to tell me they are immoral, I came to those conclusions on my own.
More on topic with the thread, I can understand why some people have an initial aversion to polygamy. The classic example is one where not all the members involved are fully consenting. If one or more people in a polygamous relationship do not have a say or aren't happy in it, I think that is just as bad as any monogamous relationship where one or both of the members don't have a say or aren't happy. Both situations are abusive. But if everyone involved is consenting and content with their situation, then I see nothing wrong.
Tell me, why can't a woman take several husbands, I mean it's only fair, Is'nt it?
She can. One-man many-women polygamy is the most discussed, but it's not the only kind of polygamy that exists.
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