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The climate is changing. It always has & always will. The actual debate is if we humans are the cause of this change? By all accounts greenhouse gases or Co2 emissions are the culprits. However, humans account for about .5% of all Co2 emissions. If every human on the planet stopped all fossil fuel consumption tomorrow we'd be looking at a negligible change. We can not stop climate change period. I'd rather spend all this money on adapting to the change & population planning, rather than on technologies that ultimately do us no good.
Exactly!!! Better zoning could save us millions down the road if we'd just plan ahead for global warming.
The climate is changing. It always has & always will. The actual debate is if we humans are the cause of this change? By all accounts greenhouse gases or Co2 emissions are the culprits. However, humans account for about .5% of all Co2 emissions. If every human on the planet stopped all fossil fuel consumption tomorrow we'd be looking at a negligible change. We can not stop climate change period. I'd rather spend all this money on adapting to the change & population planning, rather than on technologies that ultimately do us no good.
The changes aren't negligible. A small change in GHG concentration can have a dramatic impact on climate. If the ocean depth increases by 0.5% the change would be over 60 feet. A lot of inhabited property will be under water.
We can't stop climate change. We can stop our contribution to it, which has the potential to cause us harm.
The technologies that are commercially available can make a dramatic difference in our GHG output.
The changes aren't negligible. A small change in GHG concentration can have a dramatic impact on climate. If the ocean depth increases by 0.5% the change would be over 60 feet. A lot of inhabited property will be under water.
We can't stop climate change. We can stop our contribution to it, which has the potential to cause us harm.
The technologies that are commercially available can make a dramatic difference in our GHG output.
That's a very flawed comparison. The ocean has depths down to several miles, so 0.5% of this would be a huge number. OTOH, 0.5% of The CO2 concentraion by parts per million (400ppm) is only 2ppm. Hardly a substantial increase. The rest is a natural part of the Earth's Carbon cycle.
The changes aren't negligible. A small change in GHG concentration can have a dramatic impact on climate. If the ocean depth increases by 0.5% the change would be over 60 feet. A lot of inhabited property will be under water.
We can't stop climate change. We can stop our contribution to it, which has the potential to cause us harm.
The technologies that are commercially available can make a dramatic difference in our GHG output.
0.5% change in ocean temperature is alarmist talk. We account for 0.5% of all greenhouse gas emissions, not 0.5% change in ocean temperature. That's a major, major distinction. Massaging the facts like you just did is part of the problem we face. If we can't debate this using the actual facts & numbers (read: science) then there's no point in even discussing it. This type of flippant misinformation & fear mongering does nothing to help clarify the issue for others.
That's a very flawed comparison. The ocean has depths down to several miles, so 0.5% of this would be a huge number. OTOH, 0.5% of The CO2 concentraion by parts per million (400ppm) is only 2ppm. Hardly a substantial increase. The rest is a natural part of the Earth's Carbon cycle.
Actually it's precisely on point. As I pointed with my sea level analogy small percentage change in large numbers can make a big difference. And just to anchor us in reality, the pre industrial era level of CO2 in the atmosphere was under 300 PPM so the anthropogenic increase is way over 0.5%. More like a 33% increase.
0.5% change in ocean temperature is alarmist talk. We account for 0.5% of all greenhouse gas emissions, not 0.5% change in ocean temperature. That's a major, major distinction. Massaging the facts like you just did is part of the problem we face. If we can't debate this using the actual facts & numbers (read: science) then there's no point in even discussing it. This type of flippant misinformation & fear mongering does nothing to help clarify the issue for others.
See my other post. I'm glad to talk science, but we'll be talking real science not the pseudo science of the climate deniers.
Let start with the green house effect which warms the Earth by about 33° C to begin with. Let's also recognize that Venus has a temperature of over 400°C due to excessive greenhouse gases. Maintaining our GHG concentration within fairly tight limits is in our best interest.
I did not say that warming caused any virus... What I said was that as the climate warms diseases now found mainly in the tropics would move north..
More FUD and BS scare tactics. If you read and understood what was in the article I posted could you explain why this virus hasn't "moved north" nor has there been any new outbreaks of this virus? You say nothing concrete, everyone should just be scawred that "sometime" "some virus" might come to America and move north because the Earth might be warming up in it's normal cycle(s)...
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The Monroe County Health Department says it has not seen a confirmed case of dengue in Key West since November 2010.
Yet according to the environmentalists the Earth has warmed up over the past three years....
But but the virus has disappeared...
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