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Old 06-13-2014, 06:02 PM
 
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According to the blog it's going to be another year and a half before they are in full production, and have dealers, etc., so patience will be required.
Yeah, I know. I have done a lot of reading on them, and I know the timetable... just wish it was shorter is all.
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Old 06-24-2014, 05:30 PM
 
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Old 06-24-2014, 11:26 PM
 
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I think I would buy one just to try it out.

It gets 84 miles to the gallon on the highway. That means you can go from Detroit to New York City on a tank of gas – or drive from Shreveport LA to Dallas and back – then back to Dallas again – and still have about 110 miles left before a refill. How is that possible?

Elio Motors: Ultra High Mileage Vehicle
Um, didn't something like this, only more expensive, already come out? Isn't this just another covered three-wheeled motorcycle masquerading as a car?
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Old 06-25-2014, 12:06 AM
 
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Um, didn't something like this, only more expensive, already come out? Isn't this just another covered three-wheeled motorcycle masquerading as a car?
Not quite, I mean we are talking climate control, radio, etc... all the creature comforts of a car, none of the reverse trikes to be released that I know of have these features, and they have all been kits you build around the rear-end of a motorcycle.

This is a car in every sense of the word, and it was built as a car from the ground up. (Not a motorcycle to trike conversion.) Our government may say differently, but just because it has 3 wheels does not mean it is a motorcycle.
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Old 06-25-2014, 03:54 AM
 
Location: Volcano
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Our government may say differently, but just because it has 3 wheels does not mean it is a motorcycle.
It has to be registered as a motorcycle, and you need a motorcycle license to operate one, so what the government says is significant, and the point needs to be clear.

You can call it whatever you want, but legally it's a motorcycle... just as the $50,000 Morgan Roadster is. And when you poke around in the history of the Morgan Three Wheeler, which has the body of an English sportscar, it was designed that way to take advantage of the lower costs of registration and insurance, and now, the stringent safety requirements for "real cars."
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Old 06-25-2014, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan
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55 hp, with a .9l engine I wouldn't think it would be to safe on the highway, or any where other than short city drives. If they didn't cost so much I'd feel much better in a Campagna Motors T-Rex.
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Old 06-25-2014, 06:45 AM
 
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It has to be registered as a motorcycle, and you need a motorcycle license to operate one, so what the government says is significant, and the point needs to be clear.

You can call it whatever you want, but legally it's a motorcycle... just as the $50,000 Morgan Roadster is. And when you poke around in the history of the Morgan Three Wheeler, which has the body of an English sportscar, it was designed that way to take advantage of the lower costs of registration and insurance, and now, the stringent safety requirements for "real cars."

I know A LOT about three-wheeled vehicles, the reason they are designated as motorcycles, etc... I am looking at building my own from the ground up.

Nothing in this post is new to me, and I stand by what I said. Yeah, the government says it is a motorcycle, but that DOES NOT indicate that it is built with motorcycle parts, that it has lower safety standards, etc... And it is not the same thing as the motorcycle based kits that have came out in the past. Based on CAR safety standards, these Elios are suppose to be around 5 stars for safety.

To play it off as just another modified motorcycle is dishonest, no matter how you register it.
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Old 06-25-2014, 06:53 AM
 
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55 hp, with a .9l engine I wouldn't think it would be to safe on the highway, or any where other than short city drives. If they didn't cost so much I'd feel much better in a Campagna Motors T-Rex.
I would feel totally safe... if I wasn't surrounded by SUV's and big rigs. If I was driving long distance in one, I would probably stick to two-lane highways, I don't think it would have a problem then.

The T-Rex is cool, especially the Aero 3s, but it isn't fully enclosed from the weather, doesn't have the same safety features, doesn't have the same creature comforts...etc. That is why I plan on building my own version, the T-Rex is too stripped down for me, and the Elio isn't fast enough for me.

I wan't to build mine with a ZX1400R engine, around 180-200HP.

At that point, you are talking super-car performance, especially if you bolt-on a turbo.
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Old 06-25-2014, 08:18 AM
 
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Um, I think this has all been done before.
You would be wrong.

This is not a kit, nor a one-off prototype. Neither of those vehicles have all the advantages of an Elio, and have a couple that the Elio does not have.

Just because something is similar, does not mean it has been done before. That is what innovation is. Are either of those things planned for mass production with a sticker price under 7k?

Should we ignore this because the Peel P50 and the Peel Trident existed? They are both 3 wheel production cars, FAR closer to the Elio than what you posted.
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