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Old 12-05-2017, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Bend Or.
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The other thing you have to consider is demand charges. For any business that is going to have variable demand there is a demand charge that can easily make you total bill two to three times as high, because the utility has to have the capability to meet your highest usage at any time that you want it, unless you enter into a Peak/off Peak agreement.
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Old 12-05-2017, 10:12 PM
 
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USA is synonymous with the word "innovation".
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Old 12-05-2017, 10:49 PM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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gotta compete with countries with low electricity cost but in an innovative ways!
USA is already near the bottom in energy costs https://www.ovoenergy.com/guides/ene...rices-kwh.html
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Old 12-05-2017, 11:40 PM
 
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then how come largest mining is in inner mongolia owned by bitmain.
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Old 12-06-2017, 10:15 AM
 
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then how come largest mining is in inner mongolia owned by bitmain.
I could say, but you would think I was paranoid.
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Old 12-06-2017, 12:42 PM
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The cheapest electrical rates in the country are in north-central Washington.

https://www.wenatcheeworld.com/news/...e-country-but/

The Public Utility Districts have had enough of low-employment high demand electrical users. So no more bit-coin or data-centers to take advantage of the low rates.

https://www.chelanpud.org/about-us/n...load-customers
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Old 12-06-2017, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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On that site there's an interesting little map showing the 9 ISOs in NA. It looks like Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Baltimore and DC are all on the same grid. Smart? One grenade will get 'em all.
This is a fun one to look at. LMP is the location marginal price. That's what the producers are getting paid to inject to sell into the grid regardless of their cost to run.



https://www.misoenergy.org/LMPContourMap/MISO_All.html
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Old 12-07-2017, 01:51 AM
 
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I could say, but you would think I was paranoid.
paranoid meaning? did not get it quite.
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Old 12-07-2017, 10:31 AM
 
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paranoid meaning? did not get it quite.
Not going down that rabbit hole. Just consider that big players play dirty, play for keeps, and have the resources to make things go their way.
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Old 12-07-2017, 12:30 PM
 
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Not going down that rabbit hole. Just consider that big players play dirty, play for keeps, and have the resources to make things go their way.
yes but this time renewable is coming back big time isnt it. It is not like chevy EV-1
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