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Old 01-17-2018, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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Read the article. China is complaining it is getting too much back. It will still need to get them back, just not at the rate it is getting. They are also complaining that many of the waste contains hazardous materials and are not properly cleaned before they receive it.
Compared to the drywall made with formaldehyde, lead in paint on kids toys, poisonous pet foods, crappy cheap products all around. I could go on and on. They have no argument.
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Old 02-05-2018, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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As I understand it, plastic can only be recycled several times before it is "downcycled" and will eventually end up in a landfill. I stopped buying my daily yogurt because a: it kept getting smaller and smaller in size, and b: I could imagine the 365 containers/year stacked up before me and it seemed like such a waste.

https://recyclenation.com/2017/06/ho...s-be-recycled/

Everything in the grocery store seems to be embedded in plastic, and this includes Whole Foods, who stopped using plastic shopping bags. Tiny cupcakes in some plastic coffin when some cardboard container would serve as well. I've just stopped buying a number of things because of this increasing use of plastic containers.
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Old 02-05-2018, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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Apparently China does not think it needs it back.


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Yeah, maybe China is forming its policy based on its own self-interest. Who do you think they learned that from.

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As I understand it, plastic can only be recycled several times before it is "downcycled" and will eventually end up in a landfill. I stopped buying my daily yogurt because a: it kept getting smaller and smaller in size, and b: I could imagine the 365 containers/year stacked up before me and it seemed like such a waste.
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Yogurt comes in 24-oz tubs, that a) are more economical to buy, b ) can be reused instead of buying new tupperware, and c) enable you to choose your portion size every day, besides d) generating less plastic trash.
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Old 02-05-2018, 08:14 PM
 
Location: In the middle between the sun and moon
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Everything in the grocery store seems to be embedded in plastic, and this includes Whole Foods, who stopped using plastic shopping bags. Tiny cupcakes in some plastic coffin when some cardboard container would serve as well. I've just stopped buying a number of things because of this increasing use of plastic containers.
I notice all the packaging too! I make most of my food from scratch, but still often buy salsas or guacamole in plastic containers for convenience, and I am not always comfortable with that, knowing I could make these at home. I also try not to get food-to-go at restaurants anymore, but to eat in the restaurant, to save the packaging. But at home, I have a convenience addiction to Press n Seal, and Ziploc freezer bags, so I'm not sure if it even matters that I avoid most packaged food, it might all be a wash!
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Old 02-10-2018, 10:44 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Scrap plastics to fuel and fabrics is quite possible, and probable. And is being done in some countries. Others burn it (cleanly) for energy and using ash for land reclamation.

But for China... too much is too much!

The world will get it together (as economically feasible).

Oil is too cheap (at the moment)
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Old 02-11-2018, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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China with the help of our gov. have created this import of plastics and cheap crap. Now they complain.
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Old 02-14-2018, 06:52 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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Yeah, maybe China is forming its policy based on its own self-interest. Who do you think they learned that from.



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I think the Chinese invented the concept....at least they've been doing it for decades at our expense.

I was watching that cable show about looking for treasure on Oak Island. Using a metal detector, they found a crucifix of lead buried in the mud for 800 years, linking the site to the Knights Templar.

I got to thinking: unless someone invents a "plastics detector," our civilization may remain unknown to future archeologists. ???
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