Shouldn't disrespect for nature be an official crime? (solar, gas, plastic)

[Vodoven]

I don't just mean those actively destroying nature, including the false-green crowd. Crimes of apathy are committed every day, like not wanting to walk 100 feet to dump used oil in a receptacle because a storm drain is so close. Or sitting there on Facebook for 20 minutes with the engine running.

Here's irrefutable evidence of plague-like human behavior. You have to get up high to see the true scale.

https://earthengine.google.com/timelapse/

The problem is constant growth of one species while others perish unless they piggyback on the human mess.

[Willamette City]

So what's the punishment?


Who polices it?


I'm a little confused.....

[Delahanty]

[MisterShipWreck]

If such judgements are made on people, where does it stop? One day, you end up doing something that someone else does not like. What then?

Looking at Facebook while having the engine running? Really?

And, it is already illegal in most, if not all states, to dump oil in a storm drain. .

[Nattering Heights]

Our civilization is built on attempted separation from nature. The next civilization, living with different values in long term effects of our civilization's attempts to control and destroy what can't be controlled, will probably be more serious about protecting what is left to them.

[Nov3]

I recall a college Co worker, she was endearing...a true throw back to the 60's era. One day she came to work horrified. I inquired . She said....People have no respect for nature! ...Then proceeded to say how the grads were walking barefoot on the campus grass! Those poor grass blades didn't have a chance to savor the sunshine .... I then said...So um.....When you and hubby are smoking the umm "peace pipe ...filled with MJ" How much are you weeping over those leaves being burnt up to fill your lungs? ....
She found herself in a bit of a conundrum to respond. Case closed.

For nature can you define a bit which part? The oceans? Air quality? The land? The Animals? The weather habits? Each which encompass nature......Please clarify so I may understand ...thanks!

[guidoLaMoto]

Originally Posted by Vodoven

Here's irrefutable evidence of plague-like human behavior. You have to get up high to see the true scale.

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It's true that human encroachment on natural habitat is the biggest problem facing MotherNature...We had a thread here not long ago asking if it was more beneficial for Man to confine himself to concentrated areas of population or to spread himself out more sparsely across the landscape. I like living in a rural setting better than in a metropolis, but gotta admit-- it would be better if there was less urban sprawl.


OTOH- have you ever lived so far out in the bush that bears, wolves or mountain lions were a hazard? Isn't H. sapiens a part of MotherNature'e world and deserve a chance at survival too?


Then again, there are many hypocrites out there whining about the environment-- protesting at oil pipeline construction sites that they got to in their gas guzzling cars, or complaining about plastic straws (which provide only non-measurable, anecdotal evidence of enviro-damage) given out at the local sushi bar-- while the fad of eating sushi has caused sever over-fishing of our oceans. Then there's the loss of habitat caused by solar PV arrays & wind mills causing more damage than they save-- but it's PC.


Disrespect of Nature? Like ignorance itself-- it's a crime that bears its own punishment.

[DCforever]

Only 20% of the population lives in rural areas. 100 years ago that was 50%. In another 100 there will be an even small percent in rural areas.

[guidoLaMoto]

Originally Posted by DCforever

Only 20% of the population lives in rural areas. 100 years ago that was 50%. In another 100 there will be an even small percent in rural areas.

Quite right. See my post on the AG/Fossil fuel thread. We're painting ourselves into a corner with our reliance on fossil fuel: more people increases demand for food and therefore fossil fuel. It can't last forever. How do we deal with it? Anybody ready to volunteer for an early exit?


I just re-read my last post here. I should have said -better for habitat if more people lived in urban high-rises with less sprawl and fewer people in rural areas.

[charlygal]

OP, you should have this thread moved to the Great Debates forum. That way, you'll get the widest range of opinions. Or are you just looking to "preach to the choir?"