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Old 09-08-2019, 04:08 PM
 
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I'll see your BS (and I do mean BS) and raise you an MD.
Not sure why you feel the need to be tacky and insult my education. I know many MDs who would (and do) disagree with you on a number of points. I don't care either way, hence why I said to "spend the .02 wisely". There are many medical professionals on both sides of the fence on a number of issues, so that obviously isn't a trump card. I was simply offering another perspective.
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Old 09-08-2019, 05:10 PM
 
Location: DC
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Much ado about nothing.
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Old 09-08-2019, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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I've been doing my part to single-handedly keep dairy farms in business by downing a gallon of milk almost every day. I'm an adult, I have no issues digesting milk.
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Old 09-08-2019, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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We average a gallon of milk every week. Even at our ages, we're quite able to digest cow's milk with zero issues. I especially like buttermilk -- one cup makes a great breakfast.

But since I'm currently on a limited calorie intake, I have to ration the amount of cow's milk I drink. I honestly like almond and almond/coconut "milk," which have fewer calories than milk, so I'm drinking them, while Spousal Unit sticks with real milk. I wouldn't touch soy "milk" with a 20 foot pole - that's just nasty.

Nut (not soy) "milk" is very healthy, and as previously stated, has been around for centuries. It's not perfect, but neither is cow's milk. I'll keep both in our refrigerator.
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Old 09-08-2019, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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Since most people in the world have always lost their ability to digest milk once they are past breast-feeding age, that would mean that most people in the world have always gotten osteoporosis. That is manifestly not true.
Milk is definitely not the ONLY source of calcium, but it's a good source for people who can digest it.

Also not most people in the world have no ability to digest milk but about a half of them .

The exact number of adults with lactose intolerance is unknown. One estimate puts the average at 65% of the global population.
Rates of lactose intolerance vary between regions, from less than 10% in Northern Europe to as high as 95% in parts of Asia and Africa.
About 30 to 50 million Americans are lactose intolerant (~12%)
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Old 09-09-2019, 12:03 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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Milk is definitely not the ONLY source of calcium, but it's a good source for people who can digest it.

Also not most people in the world have no ability to digest milk but about a half of them .

The exact number of adults with lactose intolerance is unknown. One estimate puts the average at 65% of the global population.
Rates of lactose intolerance vary between regions, from less than 10% in Northern Europe to as high as 95% in parts of Asia and Africa.
About 30 to 50 million Americans are lactose intolerant (~12%)
And there are still many of us who are not lactose intolerant but truly ALLERGIC to the protein in milk. Dairy allergy. No cheese, ice cream, milk, or anything made from milk. Calcium citrate supplement with vitamin D and a magnesium capsule helps to replace the milk. It's a deprivation, not being able to consume dairy products but not all people are able to do so.
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Old 09-09-2019, 12:34 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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I adore whole milk, and heavy cream, and always will. About one gallon of whole milk every 4 days, or so. I much prefer raw/unpasteurized to processed, dead milk but it isn't available where I am now. Here is a very useful site for those interested in raw milk. It shows where you can purchase it by state if the laws allow. It's very popular, and tastes delicious. It is tested regularly, and is from grass fed cows which are the best. And grass fed makes for healthier cows.

https://www.realmilk.com/

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Old 09-09-2019, 12:40 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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I adore whole milk, and heavy cream, and always will. About one gallon of whole milk every 4 days, or so. I much prefer raw/unpasteurized to processed, dead milk but it isn't available where I am now. Here is a very useful site for those interested in raw milk. It shows where you can purchase it by state if the laws allow. It's very popular, and tastes delicious. They are tested regularly, and are from grass fed which is the best, and makes for healthier cows.

https://www.realmilk.com/

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According to the map, real milk is available in about half the states! We bought some a few years ago in MA from a privately owned farm and it was beautiful, tasted just like milk used to taste. It even came in glass bottles so no plastic taste. Although I am allergic, I had one lovely gulp of it-YUM!
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Old 09-09-2019, 12:52 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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According to the map, real milk is available in about half the states! We bought some a few years ago in MA from a privately owned farm and it was beautiful, tasted just like milk used to taste. It even came in glass bottles so no plastic taste. Although I am allergic, I had one lovely gulp of it-YUM!
Wonderful! There are lots of goat farms that offer raw goat milk, and other products if that is easier to digest for you. I love the Jersey cow milk since it's richer. When I lived in Colorado you had to have a cow share in order to access raw milk. And they would deliver it weekly to pickup points. It was sooo yummy. And in Washington state you don't need a cow share, and can buy it at certain stores which was very convenient. Some people may be surprised that raw milk isn't white, and that the cream comes to the surface so that you have to shake it to mix it up. I'm so glad you got to try it out. Did you get a reaction from it?
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Old 09-09-2019, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Milk is definitely not the ONLY source of calcium, but it's a good source for people who can digest it.

Also not most people in the world have no ability to digest milk but about a half of them .

The exact number of adults with lactose intolerance is unknown. One estimate puts the average at 65% of the global population.
Rates of lactose intolerance vary between regions, from less than 10% in Northern Europe to as high as 95% in parts of Asia and Africa.
About 30 to 50 million Americans are lactose intolerant (~12%)
The ability to produce lactase as an adult appears to be a fairly recent mutation, 20,000 years or so.

Not denying that those who can digest it can take advantage of a food source that others can’t. But the fact is that most humans throughout history did not drink milk as adults.

My known heritage is Northern European, and I have always loved milk in its many varieties. About 10 years ago, dairy starting causing me actual pain, along with other digestive symptoms.
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