Simple Thing Everyone Can Do to Reduce Carbon Footprint/Save Species (solar panel, recycle)
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Wrap your lips around the tail pipe on your running car for 1/2 hour. Tell us how that works out.
Thanks for the opportunity to illustrate how measurable "improvements" in air contaminants don't translate into any improvements in health/medical outcomes:
LC10 for CO is 4000ppm (30 min exposure) https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/idlh/630080.html (LC10 is the level that will kill the 10% most susceptible subjects, leaving 90% still alive.)
EPA says no adverse health effects are expected at levels less than 30ppm.
So the EPA took perfectly healthy air and imposed regulations to make it even more perfectly healthy. Does that make any sense?
Thanks for the opportunity to illustrate how measurable "improvements" in air contaminants don't translate into any improvements in health/medical outcomes:
LC10 for CO is 4000ppm (30 min exposure) https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/idlh/630080.html (LC10 is the level that will kill the 10% most susceptible subjects, leaving 90% still alive.)
EPA says no adverse health effects are expected at levels less than 30ppm.
So the EPA took perfectly healthy air and imposed regulations to make it even more perfectly healthy. Does that make any sense?
You've failed to complete your assignment. Try harder. You don't need to always underachieve.
It took awhile but I've reaslized that nothing I can do myself that will make a difference, so I won't be do anything. Don't get me wrong, eventually you, I, and everyone else won't have a choice in certain matters, legislation always sees to that. I'm not convinced most of that will do much either but I won't be around long enough to see the difference a several decades of doing x and not doing y will make so what do I know.
It took awhile but I've reaslized that nothing I can do myself that will make a difference, so I won't be do anything. Don't get me wrong, eventually you, I, and everyone else won't have a choice in certain matters, legislation always sees to that. I'm not convinced most of that will do much either but I won't be around long enough to see the difference a several decades of doing x and not doing y will make so what do I know.
I agree with this. For one, there aren't enough people that care and unless everyone does, any actions you take are pretty much useless. Second, if the Govt was actually concerned about the environment, there is plenty they can do but they don't because its a political game. Not to mention that a lot of these environmental "fixes" often create new environmental issues that did not previously exist and are simply just smoke in mirrors.
It took awhile but I've reaslized that nothing I can do myself that will make a difference, so I won't be do anything. Don't get me wrong, eventually you, I, and everyone else won't have a choice in certain matters, legislation always sees to that. I'm not convinced most of that will do much either but I won't be around long enough to see the difference a several decades of doing x and not doing y will make so what do I know.
I agree with this. For one, there aren't enough people that care and unless everyone does, any actions you take are pretty much useless. Second, if the Govt was actually concerned about the environment, there is plenty they can do but they don't because its a political game. Not to mention that a lot of these environmental "fixes" often create new environmental issues that did not previously exist and are simply just smoke in mirrors.
I've mentioned this around here before-- In Game Theory (math) there's the classic example of The Prisoners' Dilemma-- two guys are arrested in some authoritarian country and accused of a crime. Separated for interogation, each is told that if convicerted, it will go hard on them, but if you rat on your buddy, it will go easy on you. Of course, there's always the slim chance that you'll be exonerated if you go on trial...
...Each prsioner has to then decide if it's smarter to stay silent and hope his buddy stays silent, or to just rat on the buddy..If the buddy also rats, then both will be convicted...
This can be run thru a computer multiple times as a Markov process, and it turns out that the optimum results are when a guy rats about 2/3rds of the time... Moral to the story-- it more often pays to act selfishly most of the time.
Americans may vote to stop burning fossil fuels, but unless China does it too, we're screwed and they succeed.
Plants NEED carbon. What we don't need too much is methane emissions that's toxic. So carbon emissions is critical for plants to thrive but the problem is we keep cutting down on trees and forests. In order for a greener planet we need to increase planting of trees which will thrive on carbon and convert to oxygen.
The methane thing is a false argment meant only to scare the naive--
On a molar basis, methane absorbs much more heat than co2, BUT--
a) there's 10000x more co2 in the air than methane,...
b) methane is rapidly oxydized to co2 in the atm, so it doesn't last, and most importantly--
3)methane only absorbs extra heat at the same wavelengths as co2 and h20, and they are already abosrbing all the extra heat, so there's none left over for the methane to absorb....
Methane just isn't a problem for the environment.
But you are right about co2-- Plants, and therefore animals, do better with higher co2 levels. That's why commerical green houses pump it in at levels of 2000ppm instead of relying on nantural levels of 420ppm.
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