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Old 10-10-2023, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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Planting a lot more trees and using economic incentives to prevent the rapid deforestation of the planet's rainforests would probably be a good start.
Emission cuts alone won't stop climate change, but every step counts. We have to take the first step so the next steps can follow.
Saving forests is a great next step. Goals for a sustainable development should be set. Reducing waste and recycling. Investing in renewable energy. Switching to sustainable transport.
Etc...
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Old 10-10-2023, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Crooked Pennsylvania
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How will "man" stop the eventual collapse of Earth's magnetic field? Ask me if I'm worried...
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Old 10-10-2023, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Was Midvalley Oregon; Now Eastside Seattle area
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I think we should move away from a +50,000yo technology (fire, thermal) to a more advance technology of direct energy conversion (electro-chemical-quantum). Efficiency is everything.
YEMV
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Old 10-11-2023, 07:22 PM
 
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I agree that the focus is all wrong... we just won't stop emissions in time to stop climate change... it's tipped or at least will be soon.

The key... as stated above is to switch to better, cleaner sources of energy. Whether that be wind, solar or even the new nuclear.

Then we have the pie in the sky nuclear fusion, hydrogen, etc.

If we invested half the resources we do in war / killing each other into researching new cleaner energy sources... we would already have solved the problem.
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Old 10-13-2023, 02:08 PM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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Saving forests is a great next step.
Saving habitat is what's important....Grasslands perform 5-10 (!!) times more photosynthesis than forests. Grasslands have more surface area per ac than forests.

In regards trees "sequestering" co2-- a myth. It's only temporary as you grow more trees and take time to reach a new dynamic equilibrium-- the trees eventually decay and return the co2 to the atm. It will only work until you've covered the planet with trees. "co2 CYCLE"

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How will "man" stop the eventual collapse of Earth's magnetic field? Ask me if I'm worried...
Meaningless phenomenon, important only to navigators. The magnetic poles have been drifitng and will no doubt reach a critical value/position when the poles (arbitrary concept) will suddenly flip. It takes years of sun exposure to cause mutations, and except for Swedes & palomino's noses, we're all protected to a great extent from solar/cosmic radiation. This problem rates right up there with BigFoot, Zombies, space aliens and radon in your basement.

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I think we should move away from a +50,000yo technology (fire, thermal) to a more advance technology of direct energy conversion (electro-chemical-quantum). Efficiency is everything.
YEMV
Efficiency is the key word-- and it's much more efficient to start a fire with two sticks (especially if one of them is a match) and burn bio-matter rather than relying on complicated and expensive high tech. Sustainability. They'll never repeal the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. We can at least keep growing more bio-matter.

Petro-fuels are the most efficient in the short term, but our total supply of them is a battery that took 10s of millions of years to charge and now we're discharging it in only a couple centuries. That's the problem our grandchildrens' grandchildren will have to cope with.
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Old 10-15-2023, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Was Midvalley Oregon; Now Eastside Seattle area
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My solution:
Move, to higher ground, with shade from the summer sun.
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Old 10-16-2023, 10:56 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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.......If we invested half the resources we do in war / killing each other into researching new cleaner energy sources... ......
Actually, killing each other is a very important component of reducing global warming. It reduces the human population and fewer humans pollute less.
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Old 10-16-2023, 02:49 PM
 
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Actually, killing each other is a very important component of reducing global warming. It reduces the human population and fewer humans pollute less.
Dark humour :P

I figure ... and this is even darker, that we are overpopulating the earth and thus nature has a way of fixing that through plagues, pandemics and various other mechanisms to reduce our population in substantial amounts.

Kinda like how an overpopulation of say ... deer, leads to less foilage / food, starvation, more sickly deer, a crash in their population to more sustainable numbers.
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Old 10-18-2023, 04:23 PM
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In regards trees "sequestering" co2-- a myth. It's only temporary as you grow more trees and take time to reach a new dynamic equilibrium-- the trees eventually decay and return the co2 to the atm. It will only work until you've covered the planet with trees. "co2 CYCLE"

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It is NOT a myth.

You sequester the carbon in LUMBER and use it to build houses and commercial buildings. Then you keep growing more trees to sequester the CO2.

The Europeans: believe in climate change, they are shifting from CONCRETE a non-renewable resource and a HUGE CO2 emitter to WOOD CONSTRUCTION.

Due to the Democrats and so-called environmentalists we are BURNING down our National Forests and Parks at an alarming rate.

For years, even with the logging on public lands tree growth ALWAYS exceeded removals and mortality.

After 30 years of mis-management by lawyers, politicians, and environmentalists the National Forest tree growth has gone NEGATIVE in 2020.

We are burning down more forests than they are growing these days. Both California and Washington state in recent years did not meet their carbon emissions targets due to forest fires. According to the American Lung Association an average of 25,000 people die each year due to wildfire smoke.

But the real tragedy is we are destroying our public forest for thousands of years. We will never get them back.

All this due to the environmentalists. History will judge them harshly for destroying our forests.
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Old 10-19-2023, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
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Not to mention-- there has been no warming for two decades now. Do we even have a problem?
Can you show scientific evidence of this? I had read that this summer was the hottest in global record.
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