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Old 12-11-2023, 06:44 AM
 
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This...hands get dry and cracked some this way though when doing it "by hand"
That’s why we wear gloves for dishwashing
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Old 12-11-2023, 12:31 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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I consider the dishwasher, properly loaded to be far more frugal and green than washing by hand. Our Bosch uses about 3 gallons to do a whole load, which can be the dishes, silverware, bowls and other items for as long as a week. The electricity use if hot air-drying is about 190 kWh/year, or 16/month, at our rates that's about $1.76/month. When doing a pot or pan by hand, most people leave the water running while washing or fill the sink, then rinse, and that one item alone can use more than 3 gallons. Then you dry with a dishtowel that has to be washed every few days.
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Old 12-12-2023, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Sunnybrook Farm
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I consider the dishwasher, properly loaded to be far more frugal and green than washing by hand. Our Bosch uses about 3 gallons to do a whole load, which can be the dishes, silverware, bowls and other items for as long as a week. The electricity use if hot air-drying is about 190 kWh/year, or 16/month, at our rates that's about $1.76/month. When doing a pot or pan by hand, most people leave the water running while washing or fill the sink, then rinse, and that one item alone can use more than 3 gallons. Then you dry with a dishtowel that has to be washed every few days.
Well, if "most" people leave the water running while they're washing dishes, then "most" people are doing it stupidly.

I'd say filling both sides of my sink (left with soapy water, right with rinse) probably is about 3-4 gallons. So roughly comparable. In both cases the maximum efficiency is going to be achieved by doing big loads, as you note.

There's also your personal time, which is far less when using a dishwasher.

I'm all in on the dishwasher, make no mistake, but not really for efficiency - as noted, I expect the difference there isn't that great. But I have a lot of things I need to be doing more than spending time standing at a sink.
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Old 12-13-2023, 02:21 PM
 
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Why is it necessary to use a sponge to wash dishes? They are known to harbor bacteria as they are so absorbent and take forever to dry. Dish cloths clean easier and dry easier. A dish cloth with a scrub net on one side works or just use a scrubber net alone. Not the thick puckered ones, but the flat ones you can fold and then unfold and they dry in about ten minutes. My mom used to get sheets of those and we'd cut them up to the size we needed.
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Old 12-14-2023, 02:58 AM
 
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two folks in my homestead-
I use the scrub daddy and lather up all the dishes- Then do a pitcher of HOT steamy water . Viola! Washed- rinsed and then onto the dryer sink deck. THe pans though get a bit of soaking no matter whether its the dishwasher or the sink method.

I detest my dishwasher as its very LOUD and I still have to wipe it down inside and clean it once a month . That clog filter I reckon does its job and then I have to get it out and rinse it anyways.

If you are a Hyper attuned germ fighter - then do as we do in the food service industry- One tablespoon of bleach per gallon of water in the rinse sink. Let them sit/soak for five minutes and then air dry. Learned it when our inspector stopped in and advised to get a disinfectant agent.
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Old 12-14-2023, 11:03 AM
 
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No need for sponges. A cloth works fine. A fresh one every day.

I tried the Swedish dish cloth. It's like a cross between a sponge and a cloth. It says it can be washed in the clothes washer, but don't put in the dryer. It can be put in the dishwasher to wash with the dishes, or it can be heated in the microwave to kill bacteria. Some of you sponge users might really like it.
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Old 12-14-2023, 11:07 AM
 
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Rinsing by just using a sink of water must leave soap residue on the dishes and utensils which we end up ingesting.
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Old 12-15-2023, 06:50 AM
 
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Rinsing by just using a sink of water must leave soap residue on the dishes and utensils which we end up ingesting.
So what?

When the rinse water gets cloudy you drain it.
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Old 12-17-2023, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Rinsing by just using a sink of water must leave soap residue on the dishes and utensils which we end up ingesting.
I've eaten worse things.
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Old 12-18-2023, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Sunnybrook Farm
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I've eaten worse things.
Yeah, really.

If you have ever eaten in a restaurant or institutional kitchen (school, hospital, military, etc.) you have eaten food, and used utensils, that were walked on by cockroaches, ants, and/or mice. That's the way it is. I'd not get too torqued up about a trivial amount of soap residue.
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