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Old 10-06-2023, 11:56 AM
 
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Largest EV Charging Station In World Powered By Diesel-Powered Generators

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The Harris Ranch Tesla Supercharger station is an impressive beast. With 98 charging bays, the facility in Coalinga, California, is the largest charging station in the world. But to provide that kind of power takes something solar can’t provide — diesel generators.
In 2017, Tesla CEO Elon Musk said that all Superchargers in the automaker’s network were being converted to solar.

Investigative journalist Edward Niedermeyer discovered that the station was powered by diesel generators hidden behind a Shell station. Reporters at SF Gate tried to find out how much of the station's electricity was from the generators, but couldn’t get a response from Tesla.


https://cowboystatedaily.com/2023/09...ed-generators/
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Old 10-06-2023, 02:30 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Here in Sammamish, WA there has been a Tesla supercharger station installed since about March, yet to open. The chargers are covered up, while waiting for the supporting infrastructure to be installed by the electricity power provider. Like most, our provider is using natural gas and coal for about 50% of their power. That station in Coalinga is probably placed there to take advantage of travelers going between the Bay Area and Los Angeles, a trip we made often when we lived in CA until the 90s. Today, in my F150 I could make the trip there and back on one tank of gas. San Francisco to LA is about 385 miles, the best Tesla (S) range is advertised at 405 so it should make it, but then the typical Tesla range is 330-348 in mild weather, and the other higher end EVs about 350 or less.
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Old 10-06-2023, 02:57 PM
 
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This post was also put in the Automotive forum.

I found this response from that forum informative.

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Originally Posted by wac_432 View Post
I'm no fan of Tesla or EV's, but this is regurgitated clickbait frankenstined together from a 2015 article on the Harris Ranch superchargers.

You can see for yourself: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Te...l1mt?entry=ttu

There's no diesel plant onsite--look at the google map.

The original article (in 2015) was talking about a diesel trailer towed in to provide power to the original six superchargers.

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There's more commentary on the above linked post, click the icon to navigate to it if you want.
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Old 10-06-2023, 03:27 PM
 
Location: In Little Ping's Maple Dictatorship
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Largest EV Charging Station In World Powered By Diesel-Powered Generators

In 2017, Tesla CEO Elon Musk said that all Superchargers in the automaker’s network were being converted to solar.

Investigative journalist Edward Niedermeyer discovered that the station was powered by diesel generators hidden behind a Shell station. Reporters at SF Gate tried to find out how much of the station's electricity was from the generators, but couldn’t get a response from Tesla.

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2023/09...ed-generators/
This just highlights exactly why I bought an ICE instead of an EV, and continue to invest in the oil and gas sector. Fossil fuels are going to continue to be burned for a very long time.
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Old 10-07-2023, 08:43 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Just hitch-up a "whisper-quiet" 24kw ICE diesel genset. Let 'er run all night on 5 gal of free alternative biodiesel, or any number of substitutes. (Waste engine or cooking oil, discarded Jet A, or home heating oil, or non-food seed crops. It's all good stuff for your engine, it will love it.
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Old 01-10-2024, 03:39 PM
 
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How about France's back up power plan?
https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/fr...7-d19d8f760295
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Old 01-12-2024, 08:51 AM
 
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Fake News!
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Old 01-12-2024, 09:32 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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Fake News!
Educate yourself--

https://www.france24.com/en/france/2...ew-energy-bill

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...50-says-macron

https://www.france24.com/en/france/2...h-eye-on-china

https://www.reuters.com/business/ene...rs-2021-11-09/

Even the ultra-left COP's last annual meeting resulted in a policy to triple nuclear power production to meet Nut Zero goals. They know they can;t do it with wind & PV. https://www.energy.gov/articles/cop2...ecognizing-key
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Old 01-12-2024, 11:51 AM
 
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Largest EV Charging Station In World Powered By Diesel-Powered Generators
Here's my response to that same story when it was posted awhile back in CD's automotive forum:

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To answer your question, the article is misleading, out of context and misinformed.

That location was a demonstration (aka publicity stunt) project and was not slated to have anything but a dozen or so chargers. What you saw in the article's picture was for publicity purposes. Only a few of the chargers were actually connected to electricity.

As for the generators, that corner has all fuel types, gasoline, diesel, EV, propane and hydrogen. Some of the "generators" that they discussed was to power the advertisement production project. Others were actually compressors for the hydrogen station. And they had the usual emergency backup. Since the development of the site, there are maybe only 16 actual superchargers at that location. Note the gas station is where the fuels are located while the hotel is where the superchargers are located.
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Old 01-12-2024, 12:21 PM
 
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Here in Sammamish, WA there has been a Tesla supercharger station installed since about March, yet to open. The chargers are covered up, while waiting for the supporting infrastructure to be installed by the electricity power provider. Like most, our provider is using natural gas and coal for about 50% of their power. That station in Coalinga is probably placed there to take advantage of travelers going between the Bay Area and Los Angeles, a trip we made often when we lived in CA until the 90s. Today, in my F150 I could make the trip there and back on one tank of gas. San Francisco to LA is about 385 miles, the best Tesla (S) range is advertised at 405 so it should make it, but then the typical Tesla range is 330-348 in mild weather, and the other higher end EVs about 350 or less.
What agency do you use? Washington state was 10.4% natural gas and 8.6% coal in 2022. (This also shows over 10% in "unspecified" so maybe some of that was in those categories too.) Hydro was 53.84%, other renewables around 10% total....
https://www.commerce.wa.gov/growing-...ix-disclosure/

I'm not sold on EVs. In most places they do use fossil-fuel energy. Even with renewable energy, whatever is used for cars can't contribute be sold to reduce fossil fuel use elsewhere.

This OP story does sound like a nothingburger.
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