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Old 03-01-2009, 11:43 AM
 
Location: state of enlightenment
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I'm thinking about a good "bugout" location in case Chicken Little is right and there's blood in the streets. Low priced land, low population density, access to water and power are priorities. Western NM and northern NV seem like good locations. It's dry but there is enough water and land is cheap. Getting a piece of land for $3-5k near Ely or Elko and putting a cheap mobile on it for $6-10k plus well, water, propane & a few PV panels for $5-10k seems like a good way to set up a cheap home base. Water's not a problem in southwest WA and winters are not unbearable but land is more expensive. Then there's Hawaii! AHHH, nothing better than a tropical paradise to ride out the apocalypse! Some rural areas have very reasonably priced land and at the higher elevations the climate is ideal! I hope I can fit my big screen TV on the plane.
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Old 03-01-2009, 03:13 PM
 
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I'd imagine no where. If for example a couple million people are starving in New York do you really think they are going to stay there with no resources?
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Old 03-01-2009, 03:53 PM
 
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What are you going to eat? You can't exactly farm in a desert...
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Old 03-01-2009, 04:20 PM
 
Location: state of enlightenment
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I'd imagine no where. If for example a couple million people are starving in New York do you really think they are going to stay there with no resources?
They're not likely to commute to NM or NV.
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Old 03-01-2009, 04:24 PM
 
Location: state of enlightenment
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What are you going to eat? You can't exactly farm in a desert...
Sure you can: Rainwater Harvesting for Drylands and Beyond by Brad Lancaster. Just a matter of being frugal and digging deep.

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Don't steal because there's nothing left to steal. The right wing neo-con corporate wh@res and war profiteers stole it all.
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Old 03-02-2009, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Default Already bugged out, to Maine

Already bugged out to Maine. It takes time, we are becoming more self reliant each year.

I see land selling for $300/acre. Taxes are $1.05 / acre. Dense forest with lots of water.

I bought river frontage forest land, I paid $900/acre.

Most townships around us have densities running 8 to 10 people per square mile.

We have chickens, sheep and goats running free range in the forest. And an abundance of moose, deer, and wild turkey.

Our raised beds are producing veggies, and each year we plant more fruit orchard in forest clearings.

And yet we are near the freeway and 20 miles from a city with ready access to hospitals, universities, airports, and shopping [Bangor].

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Old 03-02-2009, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Ocean Shores, WA
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Don't tell anyone where your bugout location is.

They will come.

And you will have to bugout again.
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Old 03-02-2009, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Coachella Valley, California
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C-D IS my bugout location!
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Old 03-02-2009, 12:44 PM
 
Location: In The Outland
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Don't steal because there's nothing left to steal. The right wing neo-con corporate wh@res and war profiteers stole it all.
Yea right ! Proove it please, and can you name these people ? What exactly did they steal ?
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Old 03-03-2009, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Nebraska
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Just a thought...
D'ya know why the interstates were intitially built? So that the large military transport airplanes could land and takeoff if and when necessary in the event of a Cold War attack.

I used to live right next to the I-95 Corridor, and even in a rural setting much of the crime - especially violent crime - came from folks traveling up and down the interstate. During any catastrophe - hurricanes down south, heavy ice and snowstorms up north - the Interstates were packed, "wall to wall and 10 feet tall". They were not all innocent refugees in flight, either.

A "bugout" place has to be where you can find readily available shelter, food, water, and supplies, or make/grow them yourself. I know a lot of people who think that they have 'bugout' places - but in the event of a catastrophe are still dependent on stores and government entities for their basic needs, or even travel on interstates to get there. During any catastrophe, martial law will be declared - and in the event of, say, a pandemic, travel will be restricted. If you're not at your bugout place when this happens, you may never see it again.

I just thought it made good sense, instead of a "bugout" place, to have a "last stand" place. We moved to where the food was, where no interstates are, where nothing to attract tourists, developers, or those who need endless entertainment exists. We can build what we want, plant what we want, have whatever animals, etc we want, and no one says a word, because they have their own places to worry about. If the SHTF next week, next year, or never, we still have what we want, in a place we won't mind dying - tomorrow or 50 years from now. We are 'hiding in plain sight' - which is better than ending up as another Ruby Ridge, tempting some bureaucrat to enhance their 'rep' or climb even higher, by 'proving' that we are bad evil naughty people who must be brought into line. Where we live, everyone lives like this. Shrug.
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