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Old 06-10-2014, 08:53 PM
 
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Which brings to mind what I've wondered all along with this enticing development.....just what are these so-called jobs going to pay, anyway? How much will the Gtown mayor get for all her work and offerings in incentives? Are all these brewery/restaurant workers shooting for minimum wage, plus tips? Or are they going to get a decent wage, I'm saying compared to HondaJet, or Lorillard? Let's be real.
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Old 06-11-2014, 06:36 AM
 
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Which brings to mind what I've wondered all along with this enticing development.....just what are these so-called jobs going to pay, anyway? How much will the Gtown mayor get for all her work and offerings in incentives? Are all these brewery/restaurant workers shooting for minimum wage, plus tips? Or are they going to get a decent wage, I'm saying compared to HondaJet, or Lorillard? Let's be real.
It is my understanding that Stone is looking to open a full scale production facility. This isn't a brewpub. While it won't compare to HondaJet, I'd say that Lorillard is actually a pretty good analogy, though on a smaller scale in terms of workforce.
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Old 06-11-2014, 06:35 PM
 
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Which brings to mind what I've wondered all along with this enticing development.....just what are these so-called jobs going to pay, anyway? How much will the Gtown mayor get for all her work and offerings in incentives? Are all these brewery/restaurant workers shooting for minimum wage, plus tips? Or are they going to get a decent wage, I'm saying compared to HondaJet, or Lorillard? Let's be real.
A quick search seem to indicate incomes from the mid 30s to the mid 60s for brewery jobs.
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Old 06-11-2014, 06:40 PM
 
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It is my understanding that Stone is looking to open a full scale production facility. This isn't a brewpub. While it won't compare to HondaJet, I'd say that Lorillard is actually a pretty good analogy, though on a smaller scale in terms of workforce.
Lorillard? Do you work there? My dad retired from there and the contract at the time was hourly to 37 hours, 1.5 from 38-40, double time above 40. Lorillard is a union shop. I don't see Stone paying that way.
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Old 06-12-2014, 07:24 AM
 
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Lorillard? Do you work there? My dad retired from there and the contract at the time was hourly to 37 hours, 1.5 from 38-40, double time above 40. Lorillard is a union shop. I don't see Stone paying that way.
No, you're very right. I don't work there and I didn't realize working conditions were quite so sweet there. Is it still like that? I'd be interested to see how employees do today and if the union is as strong as it once was.

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A quick search seem to indicate incomes from the mid 30s to the mid 60s for brewery jobs.
I don't know. That sounds like a perfectly livable middle class salary to me, particularly in an area like Greensboro.

Maybe I'm jaded. I grew up in South Carolina, where entire towns are overjoyed to land tire factories that offer jobs that pay less than that. I think a production facility that pays a living wage and has some decent perks sounds like an okay deal.
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:22 PM
 
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No, you're very right. I don't work there and I didn't realize working conditions were quite so sweet there. Is it still like that? I'd be interested to see how employees do today and if the union is as strong as it once was.
My dad retired from there 20 years ago so I have no idea how it is anymore. Dad told me the contracts typically mirrored those of Phillip Morris. I do know they haven't laid off in masses as Reynolds did many years back. Trust me, as an industrial electrician, they worked his ass off. None of the stereotype as portrayed in the media.


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I don't know. That sounds like a perfectly livable middle class salary to me, particularly in an area like Greensboro.

Maybe I'm jaded. I grew up in South Carolina, where entire towns are overjoyed to land tire factories that offer jobs that pay less than that. I think a production facility that pays a living wage and has some decent perks sounds like an okay deal.
I agree, not everyone can make six digits per year, but at the same time compensation should be fair. Naturally the pay range depended on the position.
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Old 06-13-2014, 08:23 AM
 
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My dad retired from there 20 years ago so I have no idea how it is anymore. Dad told me the contracts typically mirrored those of Phillip Morris. I do know they haven't laid off in masses as Reynolds did many years back. Trust me, as an industrial electrician, they worked his ass off. None of the stereotype as portrayed in the media.
I believe it. I'm not anti-union in the least. I believe that people should be fairly compensated and that workers deserve a voice. My surprise was more because of the deep anti-union sentiment in many corners of the state, much of which is a holdover from bloody textile strikes the better part of a century ago.

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I agree, not everyone can make six digits per year, but at the same time compensation should be fair. Naturally the pay range depended on the position.
Agreed. I think people should earn fair compensation. I think that, for many jobs, 30-60k/year qualifies. A person can't be expected to support a family on minimum wage, but an average of 45k/year and a little personal restraint can make for a reasonably comfortable life.
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Old 07-26-2014, 07:44 PM
 
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Charlotte and Wilmington had put in bids but it appears that Greensboro is the only NC city that made a short list of 5 to 6 cities on the east coast for Stone Brewing expansion. 300 plus jobs will come to the city that gets it and it will include a brewery, restaurant, retail shop, outdoor garden and events space. Obvious factors that benefit Greensboro is its central location on the east coast seaboard and its network of interstate highways.

Greensboro on shortlist for Stone Brewing expansion - News-Record.com: Killian, Lehmert, Poe: The Inside Scoop

Greensboro is on the short list for a $20 million Stone Brewing facility, 328 jobs - Greensboro - Triad Business Journal
Not anymore.
Stone Brewing decided to locate either in the Midwest or Northeast.
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Old 07-27-2014, 12:13 PM
 
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Not anymore.
Stone Brewing decided to locate either in the Midwest or Northeast.
Well, depends in how you define Northeast. Last I heard the mostly likely locations were in VA and Ohio. But either way the Carolinas are reportedly out of the running.
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Old 07-31-2014, 03:42 PM
 
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Well, depends in how you define Northeast. Last I heard the mostly likely locations were in VA and Ohio. But either way the Carolinas are reportedly out of the running.
Just repeating what the article said, but it doesn't do us any good unless it's here.
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