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[quote=RotseCherut;55516487]This is very saddening and may be another reason why I may want to reconsider living in Greensboro. I've heard in the past that Greensboro police were knocking on people's doors and asking them to voluntarily give up their guns. It seems Greensboro is a very anti-gun city..
Let me reassure you. I was at the gas station the other day. Some guy had a gun on each hip, such that we were all treated to a view of his butt crack. Nobody has come to my door requesting a weapon. So try not to worry about that.
Let me reassure you. I was at the gas station the other day. Some guy had a gun on each hip, such that we were all treated to a view of his butt crack. Nobody has come to my door requesting a weapon. So try not to worry about that.
Good to know Sue.. I will be moving back to North Carolina, but not the Triad area.. I will check out the Triad for myself and make my own decision based on human to human interaction rather than judging the place based on an internet forum. Internet forums tend to just bring the worst out in people and I know I shouldn't judge a place based on the insults I receive on the internet. I guess I have to learn not to let the insults/personal attacks I receive on a forum get under my skin.. I do get a little emotional at times and I apologize for that.
I'd probably avoid living in Greensboro like the plague though from everything I am hearing. But, then again, it certainly is worth just visiting the place and making my own determination in person, rather than judging by just what I read.
Being a conservative person, I'd try to find a place that is more respectful of my values.. As you can see, the tolerance of people calling themselves "liberals" is not all that tolerant..
One goal leaving Colorado which is becoming increasingly less tolerant of non-liberal views and ideologies, is finding a place I can be accepted for who I am and not being forced to submit to the demands and ideologies of radicals. This is one reason I left my native Pacific Northwest. What once was the most tolerant region of the country has turned into a fanatical war-zone. Just look at the reporter, Andy Ngo, who was assaulted by the Antifa fascist radicals during a rally in Portland, Oregon. He was beaten because he was gay, Asian and conservative. They refused to accept by force that a gay minority would not support their ideologies. Very sad at how the so-called "tolerant" ones are actually the most "intolerant".
I'm hoping to find a place that is tolerant and accepting, but it is a chore it seems these days.
Good to know Sue.. I will be moving back to North Carolina, but not the Triad area.. I will check out the Triad for myself and make my own decision based on human to human interaction rather than judging the place based on an internet forum. Internet forums tend to just bring the worst out in people and I know I shouldn't judge a place based on the insults I receive on the internet. I guess I have to learn not to let the insults/personal attacks I receive on a forum get under my skin.. I do get a little emotional at times and I apologize for that.
LOL, no one attacked or insulted you on this forum. Not. At. All.
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I do get a little emotional at times and I apologize for that.
Yeah, ya think?
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I'd probably avoid living in Greensboro like the plague though from everything I am hearing. But, then again, it certainly is worth just visiting the place and making my own determination in person, rather than judging by just what I read.
There are lots of "conservatives" in G'boro. More than in Charlotte, Raleigh or Durham.
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Being a conservative person, I'd try to find a place that is more respectful of my values.. As you can see, the tolerance of people calling themselves "liberals" is not all that tolerant..
Show more tolerance and you will find more tolerance.
Unless you're White, don't move to Winston-Salem. The people here are uppity & racist. It's a very segregated city. I was born & raised here and I can't wait to move out West in the fall. Much greener pastures there, especially with the film industry here so dead. Good luck, whatever you choose to do.
Unless you're White, don't move to Winston-Salem. The people here are uppity & racist. It's a very segregated city. I was born & raised here and I can't wait to move out West in the fall. Much greener pastures there, especially with the film industry here so dead. Good luck, whatever you choose to do.
What about being a white skinned Jewish person? I tend to not just immediately believe a place is outright racist, but I also never dismiss a person who makes such a claim either. The most racist place I lived in was Boise, Idaho. It wasn't quite like people hear/read around the internet or rumors about white supremacists. Rather, it was just a bunch of uneducated and bigoted people who would make frequent jokes about my ethnicity and religion. I had to endure a lot of racism in Idaho and it sucked . It was the first place where people liberally and casually would make jokes about me killing Jesus, being part of money laundering schemes , etc. The people were almost bold and proud of their bigotry and the funniest thing was people thought it was in good fun and humor.. I actually wrote a long letter to the mayor of Boise discussing the issue and he took what I wrote deeply to heart and said it will be his duty to make changes. He is of a Basque origin, himself, but looks quite white. I actually respected that he wrote me back such a long personal e-mail.
I had a guy I use to hang out with who texted me a picture on Chanukkah of flicking off the local Chabad menorah in downtown Boise and writing "Happy Chanukkah MOther F*****!". He was a Catholic and if I did anything like that insulting his religion he would have been furious and of course would tell me how little of a sense of humor I had.
To me, I almost prefer groups of isolationist racists, like White Supremacist/Neo-Nazi groups, who will outright just hate you compared to the ones who try to act like your friends but then use that friendship as a platform to spew all their bigotry and hatred towards you.
In fact, my home state of Oregon had more of these NEo-Nazi groups than Idaho. However, the people in Oregon, as a whole, were more accepting, took racially charged comments seriously and would be respectful of your ethnicity. The Neo-Nazi/WN groups tend to isolate themselves to their little compounds or their closed social circles. There are other types of groups on the other side of the spectrum who are also very Anti-Semitic like Antifa, BDS, etc. But these are radical groups (unfortunately, growing in size), but are not the majority of the people in the state. I am just talking of the mentality of the people in the state as a whole.
In Idaho (mostly Southern Idaho) the arrogance and callousness insulting people's races was nuts and I never encountered it anywhere else like that before. People would frequently make jokes about how cheap I am, even though I was not cheap and had no financial interactions to make them say that. An example was when I was friends with this guy who ran a bar and he claimed to love Jewish people. He was one of those Born-Again types and a veteran. Anyhow, after eating a meal in his bar I gave him a large tip because I said he was a friend. He then took my money and said "You are a Jew, so I bet this is very hard for you to give this to me. I bet you really feel bad you have to give me this money". I won't lie, I came very close to wanting to take my empty beer glass and smash it over his head. But, the more sensible side of me, just smiled and accepted that I am dealing with a backward, degenerate piece of trash who I no longer kept as a friend, needless to say. This is a pretty typical scenario of what goes on in Boise and Southern Idaho. Northern Idaho felt much more accepting, ironically.
I lived in North Carolina for a few months and nobody ever treated me bad for being Jewish. I've no clue about how it would be in Winston-Salem/Triad area. It seems like Triangle is encountering a serious issue with Anti-Semitism. It is so serious that Rabbi of reputed synagogue and local Jewish organizations filed a lawsuit against the city government and mayor of Durham. No way in heck I am going to live in a place where city council is at war with the Jewish community. Even if it doesn't ultimately reflect on all the people, it leaves me with a sour feeling in my stomach. I wonder what kind of relationship the city government of Winston-Salem and Greensboro has with the Jewish community?
I'm going to be moving back to North Carolina, but probably will not live in the Triad. However, I would definitely like to visit Winston-Salem. I can only hope it is as diverse and accepting as I saw living in Charlotte. That is the one major piece of respect I Can give Charlotte is that it was the most integrated city I have ever lived in.
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My reaction to events like the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting is that this country needs more gun control, not more guns. And frankly, I just can't understand how any sane, intelligent person can think otherwise. Thats part of the reason i had such a visceral reaction to your unhinged, borderline nutjob posting about gun control in G'boro. I'm so damn sick of people being massacred in this country and the only reactions are either more prayers (useless) or more guns (dangerous).
And, I am going to ask you to just calm down and relax sir... It is just an internet forum, don't go apecrap on me. .Let's be civil and have a conversation.
So, about this topic of gun control, statements like this always make me a bit nauseated. All I have to say, is Adolf Hitler and Adolf Eichmann would totally agree with you and respect your views. I guess they must qualify as being intelligent (they certainly were) and sane people in your views. Indeed, it is people with your beliefs is why my relatives in Belarus had to dig their own graves and then the men, women, children and crying babies in their mother's arms, systematically were executed, by the orders of the law-enforcing government. Since my relatives were Jewish, they were not allowed to own guns by orders of the Soviet government and previously by the orders of the Tsarist regime. When the Nazis invaded the village, they would always single out the Jewish residents, round them up and execute them all. Considering, the "common sense" gun laws forbidding Jewish people from having "deadly" firearms, it was a very simple procedure to kill all the Jewish residents and the Nazis succeeded and wiping out a good portion of the Jewish population in the Pale of Settlement regions of Europe.
You seem to be so angry about all the people being killed in these shootings, but you don't seem to care about all the innocent people massacred by the orders of the government. More people were killed in my grandmother's village in one day than all the mass shootings in America combined. But, Adolf Hitler would be very accepting and supporting of your ideologies of gun control and the dangers of law-abiding citizens possessing deadly weapons that can be used to protect their families, children, friends, businesses , homes.
BTW, here is a quote from a National Socialist leader who I am sure you might respect, as he advocates the same type of ideology about gun control as you do, his name was Heinrich Himmler and he was the leading commander of the Schutzstaffel (Elite Paramilitary Branch of the Nazi Party) and one of the highest leaders of the Nazi Party: “Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA -- ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State.”
Anyhow, I thought you would admire the rationality, level-headedness and sanity of the Nazi party. If I am labelled insane and irrational by you, then that is an honor; as the people who you consider sane, rational and respectable, murdered half of my people and all my grandmother's village. So, I take it as an honor to be insane, knowing that I can protect myself and family against tyranny.
BTW, the US government murdered more Native Americans at the Wounded Knee massacre of 1890 than all the mass shootings in our country combined. What was the crime of these Native Americans? Their crime according to the US government at the time was being Native Americans and illegally possessing firearms. Native Americans were not allowed to own firearms at the time. However, the Native Americans, after being pushed off of their reservations, getting screwed in bad land deals, etc decided that they should have the same rights as other Americans, including 2nd Amendment rights to keep and bear arms. Well, the US government did not agree and ended up massacring over 300 Lakota Sioux men, women, children and even babies. This was one of the first Mass Shootings in American history and it was committed by the US government. I suppose if the government commits the mass murders its acceptable, but
Governments (including US government) have committed more mass shootings against their citizens than all the mass shootings (which the media loves to blow out of proportion) committed by nutjobs in our country since the beginning of our country's foundations.
But, as the former Minister of Nazi Propaganda, Joesph Goebbels, would say: 'Make the lie big, keep it simple, keep saying it and eventually they will believe it'
Please keep believing everything the media feeds you.. There is no need to think for yourself, but just believe what you are being told and please, never question the information if it is from the "reputable" news source.
As far as prayers being useless, I will say your gun control measures will be more useless and will only help protect criminals (who care less about your gun laws) and tyrants who use disarmed and weakened population to promote their tyrannical agenda. If gun control was so effective, why do countries with some of the strictest gun control also have some of the highest murder rates in the world? People need to stop comparing USA to Japan or other countries with a very compliant, submissive and generally less aggressive population. Mexico, Venezuela, Brazil, Russia, etc have some of the strictest gun control in the world, yet also have some of the highest homicide rates int he world and surpass the USA by a long shot. In the 1950s, the USA had much more lenient gun laws (you could mail-order your gun from Sears) and higher amounts of gun ownership and much less crime per capita. Even kids would bring their hunting rifles to school and go hunting after class. Most of the crime in the USA is committed in crime-ridden inner cities by felons in possession of illegal weapons and usually is a result of gang and drug violence. End the drug war and I have a feeling you will drop homicides many more times than trying to ban guns, which has proven to fail. It is just a feel-good measure that will only make crime worse and empower criminals.
BTW, I highly doubt you are a North Carolina native and bet you may be a transplant; but, hey, you could be a native and please accept my apologies if my suspicions are wrong here.
P.S.
I have to say that I believe you are violating all the City Data TOS with personal attacks, name calling, etc, but it appears this subforum is not frequently moderated, so I will just chime on the subject of gun control, since it did strike a nerve. My goal is to abide by City Data TOS and avoid personal attacks, name-calling, insults and everything else that violates these terms. IF you request, I can post you a copy of the City Data TOS, which I have printed out and review frequently to make sure I am in accordance. After reading several posts on this forum, I can see liberally calling people you don't like names, seems to be commonplace here, so I guess I will just accept it, but I cannot partake in the name-calling or personal attacks.
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And, I am going to ask you to just calm down and relax sir... It is just an internet forum, don't go apecrap on me. .Let's be civil and have a conversation.
So, about this topic of gun control, statements like this always make me a bit nauseated. All I have to say, is Adolf Hitler and Adolf Eichmann would totally agree with you and respect your views. I guess they must qualify as being intelligent (they certainly were) and sane people in your views. Indeed, it is people with your beliefs is why my relatives in Belarus had to dig their own graves and then the men, women, children and crying babies in their mother's arms, systematically were executed, by the orders of the law-enforcing government. Since my relatives were Jewish, they were not allowed to own guns by orders of the Soviet government and previously by the orders of the Tsarist regime. When the Nazis invaded the village, they would always single out the Jewish residents, round them up and execute them all. Considering, the "common sense" gun laws forbidding Jewish people from having "deadly" firearms, it was a very simple procedure to kill all the Jewish residents and the Nazis succeeded and wiping out a good portion of the Jewish population in the Pale of Settlement regions of Europe.
You seem to be so angry about all the people being killed in these shootings, but you don't seem to care about all the innocent people massacred by the orders of the government. More people were killed in my grandmother's village in one day than all the mass shootings in America combined. But, Adolf Hitler would be very accepting and supporting of your ideologies of gun control and the dangers of law-abiding citizens possessing deadly weapons that can be used to protect their families, children, friends, businesses , homes.
BTW, here is a quote from a National Socialist leader who I am sure you might respect, as he advocates the same type of ideology about gun control as you do, his name was Heinrich Himmler and he was the leading commander of the Schutzstaffel (Elite Paramilitary Branch of the Nazi Party) and one of the highest leaders of the Nazi Party: “Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA -- ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State.”
Anyhow, I thought you would admire the rationality, level-headedness and sanity of the Nazi party. If I am labelled insane and irrational by you, then that is an honor; as the people who you consider sane, rational and respectable, murdered half of my people and all my grandmother's village. So, I take it as an honor to be insane, knowing that I can protect myself and family against tyranny.
BTW, the US government murdered more Native Americans at the Wounded Knee massacre of 1890 than all the mass shootings in our country combined. What was the crime of these Native Americans? Their crime according to the US government at the time was being Native Americans and illegally possessing firearms. Native Americans were not allowed to own firearms at the time. However, the Native Americans, after being pushed off of their reservations, getting screwed in bad land deals, etc decided that they should have the same rights as other Americans, including 2nd Amendment rights to keep and bear arms. Well, the US government did not agree and ended up massacring over 300 Lakota Sioux men, women, children and even babies. This was one of the first Mass Shootings in American history and it was committed by the US government. I suppose if the government commits the mass murders its acceptable, but
Governments (including US government) have committed more mass shootings against their citizens than all the mass shootings (which the media loves to blow out of proportion) committed by nutjobs in our country since the beginning of our country's foundations.
But, as the former Minister of Nazi Propaganda, Joesph Goebbels, would say: 'Make the lie big, keep it simple, keep saying it and eventually they will believe it'
Please keep believing everything the media feeds you.. There is no need to think for yourself, but just believe what you are being told and please, never question the information if it is from the "reputable" news source.
As far as prayers being useless, I will say your gun control measures will be more useless and will only help protect criminals (who care less about your gun laws) and tyrants who use disarmed and weakened population to promote their tyrannical agenda. If gun control was so effective, why do countries with some of the strictest gun control also have some of the highest murder rates in the world? People need to stop comparing USA to Japan or other countries with a very compliant, submissive and generally less aggressive population. Mexico, Venezuela, Brazil, Russia, etc have some of the strictest gun control in the world, yet also have some of the highest homicide rates int he world and surpass the USA by a long shot. In the 1950s, the USA had much more lenient gun laws (you could mail-order your gun from Sears) and higher amounts of gun ownership and much less crime per capita. Even kids would bring their hunting rifles to school and go hunting after class. Most of the crime in the USA is committed in crime-ridden inner cities by felons in possession of illegal weapons and usually is a result of gang and drug violence. End the drug war and I have a feeling you will drop homicides many more times than trying to ban guns, which has proven to fail. It is just a feel-good measure that will only make crime worse and empower criminals.
BTW, I highly doubt you are a North Carolina native and bet you may be a transplant; but, hey, you could be a native and please accept my apologies if my suspicions are wrong here.
P.S.
I have to say that I believe you are violating all the City Data TOS with personal attacks, name calling, etc, but it appears this subforum is not frequently moderated, so I will just chime on the subject of gun control, since it did strike a nerve. My goal is to abide by City Data TOS and avoid personal attacks, name-calling, insults and everything else that violates these terms. IF you request, I can post you a copy of the City Data TOS, which I have printed out and review frequently to make sure I am in accordance. After reading several posts on this forum, I can see liberally calling people you don't like names, seems to be commonplace here, so I guess I will just accept it, but I cannot partake in the name-calling or personal attacks.
You play the victim card very well!
And of course, I have never called you a name, engaged in a personal attack, or done anything else towards you that in any way violates this site's TOS. Whereas you have (without any cause or reason) called me a bigot, anti-semitic and hurled other insults my way. Hmmm, who's violating the TOS? Take care!
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And of course, I have never called you a name, engaged in a personal attack, or done anything else towards you that in any way violates this site's TOS. Whereas you have (without any cause or reason) called me a bigot, anti-semitic and hurled other insults my way. Hmmm, who's violating the TOS? Take care!
After you told me to stay out of Winston-Salem without any explanation, it led me to make some assumptions. You actually attacked me by telling me not to move to the Triad without any explanation. If an African American familly, for example, are told they should not come into this restaurant by a patron, they may feel alienated and jump to this conclusion. Is it wrong that they may jump to conclusions of potential racial animosity as minorities if a person snaps at them and says, "Go somewhere else", without explaining why? Maybe, it was their son's Obama or 2Pac shirt that absolutely offended him. But, how could they possibly know?
You have called me a troll (violation) , among other attacks on me. As well, you instigated this fight and I have seen plenty of your engagements elsewhere on this forum.
Oh well, so much for the civil conversation.
I also didnt think you had a viable rebuttal to the gun control argument you so fervently make with additional insults to anyone who disagrees with you.
What about being a white skinned Jewish person? I tend to not just immediately believe a place is outright racist, but I also never dismiss a person who makes such a claim either. The most racist place I lived in was Boise, Idaho. It wasn't quite like people hear/read around the internet or rumors about white supremacists. Rather, it was just a bunch of uneducated and bigoted people who would make frequent jokes about my ethnicity and religion. I had to endure a lot of racism in Idaho and it sucked . It was the first place where people liberally and casually would make jokes about me killing Jesus, being part of money laundering schemes , etc. The people were almost bold and proud of their bigotry and the funniest thing was people thought it was in good fun and humor.. I actually wrote a long letter to the mayor of Boise discussing the issue and he took what I wrote deeply to heart and said it will be his duty to make changes. He is of a Basque origin, himself, but looks quite white. I actually respected that he wrote me back such a long personal e-mail.
I had a guy I use to hang out with who texted me a picture on Chanukkah of flicking off the local Chabad menorah in downtown Boise and writing "Happy Chanukkah MOther F*****!". He was a Catholic and if I did anything like that insulting his religion he would have been furious and of course would tell me how little of a sense of humor I had.
To me, I almost prefer groups of isolationist racists, like White Supremacist/Neo-Nazi groups, who will outright just hate you compared to the ones who try to act like your friends but then use that friendship as a platform to spew all their bigotry and hatred towards you.
In fact, my home state of Oregon had more of these NEo-Nazi groups than Idaho. However, the people in Oregon, as a whole, were more accepting, took racially charged comments seriously and would be respectful of your ethnicity. The Neo-Nazi/WN groups tend to isolate themselves to their little compounds or their closed social circles. There are other types of groups on the other side of the spectrum who are also very Anti-Semitic like Antifa, BDS, etc. But these are radical groups (unfortunately, growing in size), but are not the majority of the people in the state. I am just talking of the mentality of the people in the state as a whole.
In Idaho (mostly Southern Idaho) the arrogance and callousness insulting people's races was nuts and I never encountered it anywhere else like that before. People would frequently make jokes about how cheap I am, even though I was not cheap and had no financial interactions to make them say that. An example was when I was friends with this guy who ran a bar and he claimed to love Jewish people. He was one of those Born-Again types and a veteran. Anyhow, after eating a meal in his bar I gave him a large tip because I said he was a friend. He then took my money and said "You are a Jew, so I bet this is very hard for you to give this to me. I bet you really feel bad you have to give me this money". I won't lie, I came very close to wanting to take my empty beer glass and smash it over his head. But, the more sensible side of me, just smiled and accepted that I am dealing with a backward, degenerate piece of trash who I no longer kept as a friend, needless to say. This is a pretty typical scenario of what goes on in Boise and Southern Idaho. Northern Idaho felt much more accepting, ironically.
I lived in North Carolina for a few months and nobody ever treated me bad for being Jewish. I've no clue about how it would be in Winston-Salem/Triad area. It seems like Triangle is encountering a serious issue with Anti-Semitism. It is so serious that Rabbi of reputed synagogue and local Jewish organizations filed a lawsuit against the city government and mayor of Durham. No way in heck I am going to live in a place where city council is at war with the Jewish community. Even if it doesn't ultimately reflect on all the people, it leaves me with a sour feeling in my stomach. I wonder what kind of relationship the city government of Winston-Salem and Greensboro has with the Jewish community?
I'm going to be moving back to North Carolina, but probably will not live in the Triad. However, I would definitely like to visit Winston-Salem. I can only hope it is as diverse and accepting as I saw living in Charlotte. That is the one major piece of respect I Can give Charlotte is that it was the most integrated city I have ever lived in.
Charlotte is far more progressive than the Triad. I'm black & grew up in Winston-Salem, there's a Jewish community but it's quite small compared with Charlotte. I have heard people make anti Semitic comments, though they were very conservative friends of my White fiance - these same people also made anti Muslim & immigrant remarks. I can't say how the local governments in the Triad cities are. The crime here has gotten very bad too. I'm sorry you had to endure such bigotry out there. It's tough enough being human and others try to make it even worse. I used to let it bother me but now I just go on with my life.
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