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Old 06-07-2024, 11:13 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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East Greensboro, man… my gosh. It just really kinda hit home riding around there that large, large swaths of east Greensboro are starting to look like a 3rd world countries due to decades of neglect. Desperately needs to be some investment over there. Fast!
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Old 06-08-2024, 05:45 AM
 
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East Greensboro, man… my gosh. It just really kinda hit home riding around there that large, large swaths of east Greensboro are starting to look like a 3rd world countries due to decades of neglect. Desperately needs to be some investment over there. Fast!
If the city can deal with homelessness, attract more higher paying jobs for east Greensboro residents, maybe over time that can help change the perception of the area and we'll see more retail and development on that side of town. However there is the elephant in the room in regards to this issue. Its considered the "black" side of town so there is a racial element to this which is often more perception based. The minority side of town in virtually all cities happen to be the lower income side of town. Low income areas and crime tend to be related and unfortunately that is associated with minorities in a lot of people's mind even though crime can be a factor regardless of race. You don't know how many times I've heard people say don't go across the tracks or don't go south of Gate City Blvd. And its typically where the black neighborhoods begin. But like I said, unfortunately its more perception than reality. There are pockets of crime in some of these neighborhoods, but the reality is most are safe.

But everything is demographics based when it comes to retail and development. For example, You'll never see a Starbucks in east Greensboro unless its on NC A&T's campus. Krispy Kreme had opened a location in east Greensboro about 15 years ago and it closed shortly after it opened. Not sure why it closed because everyone loves Krispy Kreme Doughnuts and this was at a time before the cost of a dozen shot up to over $20. So I'm not sure why it closed.

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Old 06-08-2024, 06:53 AM
 
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If the city can deal with homelessness, attract more higher paying jobs for east Greensboro residents, maybe over time that can help change the perception of the area and we'll see more retail and development on that side of town. However there is the elephant in the room in regards to this issue. Its considered the "black" side of town so there is a racial element to this which is often more perception based. The minority side of town in virtually all cities happen to be the lower income side of town. Low income areas and crime tend to be related and unfortunately that is associated with minorities in a lot of people's mind even though crime can be a factor regardless of race. You don't know how many times I've heard people say don't go across the tracks or don't go south of Gate City Blvd. And its typically where the black neighborhoods begin. But like I said, unfortunately its more perception than reality. There are pockets of crime in some of these neighborhoods, but the reality is most are safe.

But everything is demographics based when it comes to retail and development. For example, You'll never see a Starbucks in east Greensboro unless its on NC A&T's campus. Krispy Kreme had opened a location in east Greensboro about 15 years ago and it closed shortly after it opened. Not sure why it closed because everyone loves Krispy Kreme Doughnuts and this was at a time before the cost of a dozen shot up to over $20. So I'm not sure why it closed.
Perception definitely can become reality and comparatively speaking to cities of similar size, no, the crime isn’t that bad. However, the optics … the optics aren’t pleasing at all. Greensboro, save the west and southwest and north sides, is far … very far from the most polished looking city and the wear and tear becomes ever more apparent as the years continue to pass, but there are parts of the eastside that looked like a bomb went off.
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Old 06-08-2024, 06:26 PM
 
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If the city can deal with homelessness, attract more higher paying jobs for east Greensboro residents, maybe over time that can help change the perception of the area and we'll see more retail and development on that side of town. However there is the elephant in the room in regards to this issue. Its considered the "black" side of town so there is a racial element to this which is often more perception based. The minority side of town in virtually all cities happen to be the lower income side of town. Low income areas and crime tend to be related and unfortunately that is associated with minorities in a lot of people's mind even though crime can be a factor regardless of race. You don't know how many times I've heard people say don't go across the tracks or don't go south of Gate City Blvd. And its typically where the black neighborhoods begin. But like I said, unfortunately its more perception than reality. There are pockets of crime in some of these neighborhoods, but the reality is most are safe.

But everything is demographics based when it comes to retail and development. For example, You'll never see a Starbucks in east Greensboro unless its on NC A&T's campus. Krispy Kreme had opened a location in east Greensboro about 15 years ago and it closed shortly after it opened. Not sure why it closed because everyone loves Krispy Kreme Doughnuts and this was at a time before the cost of a dozen shot up to over $20. So I'm not sure why it closed.
I'm not sure why the Krispy Kreme would close either but their overall expansion efforts have stalled in NC, while ironically Dunkin Donuts has been expanding here. I like Krispie Kreme over Dunkin's woodlike donuts but there are a number of mom and pop donut shops that do better than both.

As far as the east Greensboro area, I do have a friend who worked for many years at the Food Lion on East Market Street, and unfortunately that location had one of the highest shrinkage (shoplifting) rates in the area. But it would be harder to discreetly steal a donut unless someone tried to do it by force, which seems ridiculous.

As to the overall situation in East Greensboro (and I'm a little hazy on the definition of where that would start because if you're talking about everywhere south of Gate City Boulevard, that would include Four Seasons and the area out by Wet N' Wild and K&W Cafeteria, which I would consider more South Greensboro). As far as some of those areas undergoing years of neglect, I think part of it is due to something that I realize may not be popular to say.

But in the 1980's and 1990's downtown really needed the public resources and attention to be put into it because other than the universities a little bit further away, the core central business district was eerily empty after the offices shut down at 5 PM. Now, with so many other areas that have extreme needs, and all of the gentrification and money that has flowed into downtown, I don't know that this is the place the local government needs to continue to prioritize with putting so much of its investment resources into it the same way it did in 1990 since private capital has been flowing into that area very differently than it did 30 or 40 years ago.

The areas that really need the attention as far as Greensboro is concerned are places like East and South Greensboro whose "claim to fame--or infamy" are keeping Greensboro's violent crime stats high. But I'm not sure that the rich and powerful of the city are ready to make that shift, despite how much they may like to talk about being equitable and inclusive.
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Old Yesterday, 05:27 PM
 
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Lots of scaredy cats on this forum.
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Old Yesterday, 05:52 PM
 
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Lots of scaredy cats on this forum.
Greensboro set a record last year with 74 homicides. In a city of 300,000. Growing up in Boston, was I afraid of Roxbury and Mattapan? Is the Pope Catholic?

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Old Yesterday, 07:51 PM
 
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Lots of scaredy cats on this forum.

A lot of hyperbole for sure.
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Old Yesterday, 08:25 PM
 
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A lot of hyperbole for sure.
Boston, a city of over 650,000, recorded 37.
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Old Today, 10:56 AM
 
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Lots of scaredy cats on this forum.
You ain't lyin'
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