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Location: Approximately 50 miles from Missoula MT/38 yrs full time after 4 yrs part time
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Originally Posted by ScoPro
Haw - you & Mac are mere kids! I'll be 67 next month.
Wish I had a Model 62 - an original one, not those Rossi copies.
......Hey SocPro.......
So I don't get nailed for being off topic, I'll mention that I did some quail hunting back in 1978 down around Karnes City and over by Kerrville.
But when I saw that "ole ScoPro" was from Round Rock, I had to mention that I stayed overnight there back in November of 1978 on my way home from Karnes City on my way up through Ardmore, OK (to do a little more bird huntin') then continue on north. (Had to get back in time to catch the end of elk & deer season.).
I'd been down at Karnes City since May of that year involved with the construction of the Chevron Resources Uranium Mill (The Panna Marie Mill).....stayed almost 5 1/2 months at a "neat" old Motel (The Safari Motel) actually located in Kennedy, TX & owned by a local, born and bred Texan by the name of Harvey Payne. (Funny "Side Note": when he was sold out of rooms, he had a Neon Sign that he'd turn on in the front window that read:...."PLUM FULL!")... He was such a great guy.....he introduced me to a rancher friend who gave me free use of a saddle horse to use in my free time ( my crew and I were workin' "5-9s" starting at 6a.m.)....by 3:30pm the summer heat was "insane". I'd use the motel pool until about 5:30, eat supper, then ride for an hour or so. Ole Harvey even loaned me a shotgun to use when Quail season opened.
Anyway, as I remember Round Rock was a nice little town of about 8000 population and obviously there was no "DELL" there--( my 60 yr old niece presently works for Dell). The niece tells me R.R. population today is approx 110,000.! That works out to be a litle over 4030 people per/sq/mile. The "county" I live in has a pop density of 15/per/sq/mile................God love you folks, I don't know how you do it!!!........I'd go nuts
One other "oldie" I have is an "Antonio Zoli" O&U (Cape Gun) mfg in 1939. The action is a "bright-metal", side plated box lock with double triggers (the one for the rifle barrel (7x57R) has an external 'trigger pull' adjustment screw inside the trigger guard. The fully engraved action has the Zoli Logo and the name Antonio Zoli on the botton flat area of the action.
The shotgun barrel (which is on top) is 16 ga and stamped: Antonio Zoli Arms Gardone V.T. Italy. but on the other side of the barrel it says: HEGE GMBH & CO SCHWAB HALL GERMANY / SPECIAL NICKEL CHROME STEEL NITRO PROVED. The pistol grip cap and the butt plate are a "checkered", black "bake-a-lite" material and are in 99.8 % condition with the words: HEBSACKER / GERMANY in the center of the Butt Plate. The finely checkered european walnut stock (with cheek-piece) and forearm are 98%.. Also... ALL...I repeat ALL.. screw head slots on the gun are "aligned with the axis of the bore"! (Iunderstand this is called: "TIMING The Screws" and all misc metal is engraved.
I've had it for about 25 years and periodicly tried researching it's history. It appears that a German Gun Distributor (Hebsacker) took an order from a German gun dealer for this "custom-order-gun". I bought it from a retired LEO who brought it over from Europe right after WWII. I don't think its been fired more than 100 times. Its an excellent gun for sittin' in a tree-stand waitin' for a deer, turkey or hog to come by.
Yeah, the CCI shotshells seem to do just a little better than the "old school" type. I don't have actual patterning data to prove it, so this is just an anecdote.
I have seen in catalogs, but never seen an actual gun, but some .22 shotguns have been built. Remington offered this as an option on the pump .22 they build or at least built - and may still offer it for all I know.
With all the gun shows I have attended, I would think I would have seen one of these choked, smooth-bore .22s, but have not.
Many, many years ago bat hunting was very popular. That was before bats became endangered. .22 fine shot was especially a challenge for bats that came into range and out of range very quick. Keep in mind that your range was only fifteen to twenty feet. You would throw a stone in the air and the bats would follow the stone down and into range. It was also one of the few times that the bats would fly straight.
It was an old sport for old guns.
When I was young I used to go dragon fly hunting with my gallery .22. A 10 X hit was when all four wings floated out of the air to the ground or water. Their practice of hovering was their undoing. It was actually easier to shoot dragon flies with solid lead than to shoot bats with the fine shot.
Smooth bore like a shotgun? If so you probably should not fire normal "ball" ammo in it.
I have never seen a 62 "shotgun" .22, didn't know they made them.
If it's a smoothbore you will probably have awful accuracy with normal .22 ammo.
Smooth Bore in the sense I am using it means "no rifling". I"m not talking about the bore being smooth and shiny, rather than rough (as many of these are from being used with corrosive ammo and then not cleaned properly/soon enough).
I think I have muddied the water by bringing this arcane topic up. .22 "shotguns" are quite rare.
Odd, I've always thought of my .22 as being fairly accurate, even without the rifling bore. Keep in mind, I had always used shorts. But yeah, I'm sure a modern gun would out do my .22 ...
And I've never even thought of using something like a shotgun. Also, keep in mind, when I fired at the bird, I didn't have time to adjust my breathing and to allow for my heart beat. My dad was saying, "Hurry up, we've got to go." The shot was well beyond it's limit of what I had heard of as being a hundred yards.
If you could hit the lid of a regular 32 gallon trash can even half the time at 100 yards, this can't be a smooth bore .22.
When you look down the barrel (using proper safety precautions and with the action open, bore light or mirror in the action) you can see the rifling.
If you clean the bore with a reasonably tight-fitting patch, the cleaning rod turns, right?
I've moved to many times to still have a any cleaning equipment. I guess I'll have to unscrew the the side to get a good look. Or maybe I'll go ahead and get somebody to clean it and find out that way.
I had a couple of Stevens Savage shotguns with no serial numbers, they were fairly new. Bought them in the 70's. Pretty sure the Montgomery Wards/Mossberg .22 at my parents ranch does not have a serial #. Shooting gophers last weekend with it.
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........I'd go nuts
