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Hand guns are all designed to hit targets at very close rage..Don't have much experience with short barreled weapons other than my deceased father in laws old Smith and Wesson...an ancient old revolver that because of our laws..I handed over to the police...but prior I did play with the weapon...For someone to hit a target at 50 years is remarkable...I guess ...with modern weapons that are not revolvers - it might be easier..With revolvers I noticed that the twisting action that takes place because of the mechanics makes the gun inaccurate...all I learned about hand guns is that they are meant to kill people at very close range---long range shooting with a short barrel is a sport..nice to see Americans understanding that.
With a $4,000 1911 mind you. I can't believe he spent that much on a pistol. That's (1) pistol. I guess if you fork over that much bread on a gun, it better damn well do that!
Anyone who would pay the Springfield "custom" shop $4K for any gun work is a FOOL, IMO. You can get better workmanship from the best custom 1911 'smiths in the country for less $.
A 1911 is a fine close range defense gun but not designed for 100 yard shots.
It's more than a close range "defensive" gun. It was and still is pretty close to number uno for bullseye shooting and competition shooting. So much so Les Baer will upgrade your pistol for a 1.5" inch group guarantee at 50 yards from the factory. That's an extra $250 to the price. Wilson and Nighthawk come with a 1" at 25 yards guarantee from the factory. It's standard and is part of their quality control. You also get a test target with these pistol to prove it and show how it did for you.
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Originally Posted by lifelongMOgal
Anyone who would pay the Springfield "custom" shop $4K for any gun work is a FOOL, IMO. You can get better workmanship from the best custom 1911 'smiths in the country for less $.
It wasn't $4,000. It was the price of a Springfield Mil Spec, plus the parts, labor and extra Roguard and NP3 finishes. You're right, the best smiths in the country would have been $6,000. I think Springfield is qualified to build one. They have the FBI contract on the Professional and also make the USMC Operator after all. Don't forget about the TRP and Range Officer as well.
My friend hit the 8" plates from 50 yards with a S&W 442 Snub, regular sights.
I think hitting 50 to 75 yards is pretty damn good. Shooting out to 100 will take some work with regular sights (no red dot or scope). In all honesty, 50 yards is the furthest practical distance with a stock handgun.
My friend hit the 8" plates from 50 yards with a S&W 442 Snub, regular sights.
I think hitting 50 to 75 yards is pretty damn good. Shooting out to 100 will take some work with regular sights (no red dot or scope). In all honesty, 50 yards is the furthest practical distance with a stock handgun.
Like I said earlier in the thread...I've never seen anything stock except a HK P7/M8 or PSP hit an 8" steel plate at 100 yards. That's a unique handgun to say the least. It's also gas operated instead of a John Browning design. The HK P7 series pistols were the most expensive production handguns ever to produce. That's all machined from solid steel and no MIM parts. It was very very expensive to make. If a custom 1911 is quality, those tie it deadnuts up.
This random You Tube shows what an HK P7 series can do even in modest hands. This is bigger than a 8" steel plate though. It looks 12" to 18". The fella hits it on the first try!
I've always loved that video. I think the only thing that has been done to it is some added skateboard tape added to the grip. That far gong is a big one, at least three feet across. Never the less, it was one hell of a shot. He is one hell of a shot as well. That's his private range in his own backyard. He shoots on it several times a week. He knows that range like the back of his hand.
Trained to 50yards but I was awful at that range. Beretta 92FS. A lot of Kentucky windage. Comfort was 25 yards or less.
Can I have the same question but with a rifle question now?
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