Looking for a Gun Owner friendly state to move to....taking recomendations... (deer, cost)
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Alaska is probably the most gun-friendly state I have ever visited, might have something to do with there being more game animals than humans and a fair amount of those animals consider man as a food source.
here I was thinking that Wisconsin was the only state with more game animals than people.
here I was thinking that Wisconsin was the only state with more game animals than people.
Decent hunting there, from what I read, but unfortunately Wisconsin seems to be the place where "progressivism" was born, with all it's ugly anti-freedom implications.
If I were just looking for a state to hunt and shoot in during retirement, only the Intermountain West states would get consideration, although I am including my like for dry and dislike for humid weather as part of that.
Or, of course, Alaska if you are hardy enough. More and better hunting and fishing than anyplace else, and it's so big you can't really judge the state as one block. I wouldn't much want to spend the winter on the North Slope, but it's not all that harsh.
Decent hunting there, from what I read, but unfortunately Wisconsin seems to be the place where "progressivism" was born, with all it's ugly anti-freedom implications.
If I were just looking for a state to hunt and shoot in during retirement, only the Intermountain West states would get consideration, although I am including my like for dry and dislike for humid weather as part of that.
Or, of course, Alaska if you are hardy enough. More and better hunting and fishing than anyplace else, and it's so big you can't really judge the state as one block. I wouldn't much want to spend the winter on the North Slope, but it's not all that harsh.
One other thing you should take into consideration:
At age 60, if you are a resident of Alaska, you get a free hunting and fishing license for the rest of your life.
At age 65, or older, you can have someone proxy hunt and/or fish for you.
Pennsylvania got a relatively high ranking, but I thought Pennsylvania's gun laws were not that strict?
They aren't and if you're a hunter there is state shooting ranges free to use and I believe unique to PA is hundreds of thousands of acres of State Game Lands you can hunt on. If hunting is a priority then you'd certainly want to consider that.
I'm in AZ and thinking of moving to WY. Wouldn't consider living in a state where my right to defend myself is a question rather than a given. Good resource is GunLaws.com. Lots of great resources, books, updates, commentary, and a very awake staff. Most of the time I carry concealed. I have a CCW and am glad I took the class. Learned a lot! I think everyone should take those classes. Not necessarily to 'get permission' to carry, but to understand rights and responsibilities. We had cops and lawyers teaching the class. Very good info from their point of view. As the owner of gunlaws says, "We are the first responders. The cops and EMT's are second responders." In the last few years, PHX has averaged one home invasion a day. It's just smart to know how to take care of yourself!
As to your question, there's a lot to like in Arizona. However, Wyoming is further from the border, has less crime, and is freer with your rights. So as soon as I can figger it out, I'm going there.
I'm in AZ and thinking of moving to WY. Wouldn't consider living in a state where my right to defend myself is a question rather than a given. Good resource is GunLaws.com. Lots of great resources, books, updates, commentary, and a very awake staff. Most of the time I carry concealed. I have a CCW and am glad I took the class. Learned a lot! I think everyone should take those classes. Not necessarily to 'get permission' to carry, but to understand rights and responsibilities. We had cops and lawyers teaching the class. Very good info from their point of view. As the owner of gunlaws says, "We are the first responders. The cops and EMT's are second responders." In the last few years, PHX has averaged one home invasion a day. It's just smart to know how to take care of yourself!
As to your question, there's a lot to like in Arizona. However, Wyoming is further from the border, has less crime, and is freer with your rights. So as soon as I can figger it out, I'm going there.
There is a lot to like about every State. There are also things we do not like. It comes down to a matter of priorities. When the things we do not like out weigh the things we do like, we have a tendency to move. Moving from Arizona to Wyoming will be quite a change, both culturally and weather-wise. Unless you are from the Flagstaff area, winters in Wyoming will come as a bit of a shock. Keep an eye on the temperatures around Jackson Hole, WY, this winter. There is a reason why Wyoming has such a small population, when all of its surrounding neighbor States have much larger populations.
On Febuary 9, 2010, Wyoming passed HB95, "Firearms Freedom Act" which includes penalties of up to two years in prison for federal agents violating the law. Other than Alaska and Vermont, Wyoming is one of the most firearm-friendly States in the Union.
As a general rule, the States with the fewest number of people per square mile tend to be the most firearm-friendly. The States with the highest number of people per square mile tend to be the least firearm-friendly.
Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America referred to the four happy states, the states where residents may carry concealed weapons without the hated government permission slip. The four states are Alaska, Arizona, Vermont, and Wyoming. However, Arizona and Alaska both require an individual to let the police know he's carrying in the event of a traffic stop or other confrontation. Alaskan police take the gun and call the serial number to their dispatcher. They return the gun after only after verifying that both the gun and the gunowner aren't on a wrong list.
Vermont is the only state that has never regulated concealed weapons. Once a very conservative state it has become increasingly liberal. Additionally, it's necessary to cross New York to leave New England. I considered moving there but the future made me nervous.
I must mention Montana. At the present time it's legal to carry concealed without any permit in rural areas. Last year the state legislature voted overwhelmingly to rescind the permit law but the lame duck Democratic governor vetoed the bill. The gun culture is alive and well in Montana. I'd rate Montana second and wouldn't be too concerned about carrying without a permit. They'll get the law passed.
In 1966 I was on a vacation in Wyoming and had a minor accident in Rawlins. The police ticketed a local resident. I was talking to a police lieutenant about Wyoming gun laws. I remember his words by heart; I was so impressed, "You have an absolute right to carry a gun. Get in trouble with it and go to jail, when you get out you get your gun back."
I wish I had moved here then. But I finally did nearly ten years ago. I figured that the attitude towards guns would be good but I never realized how good. People here consider guns a normal part of life. It's the heart of the gun culture. Private sales are legal with no paperwork. It is illegal for any city or county to register firearms. The state has preempted gun laws. There are no age requirement.
I live in Wyoming because of guns. I've never looked back.
Make a visit. Go to some gunshows. Talk to the folks. Welcome to the real America.
I don't know about the other 3, but folks wanting a permit from VT come to NH to get one. The Vt'ers want the paper to travel to other states, and have no papers.
NH it isn't dreaded, as it is only 10 bucks and lasts 4 years. No pic, no prints either. NH moves it like Mass did and i will opt out and carry anyway.
There is a lot to like about every State. There are also things we do not like. It comes down to a matter of priorities. When the things we do not like out weigh the things we do like, we have a tendency to move. Moving from Arizona to Wyoming will be quite a change, both culturally and weather-wise. Unless you are from the Flagstaff area, winters in Wyoming will come as a bit of a shock. Keep an eye on the temperatures around Jackson Hole, WY, this winter. There is a reason why Wyoming has such a small population, when all of its surrounding neighbor States have much larger populations.
On Febuary 9, 2010, Wyoming passed HB95, "Firearms Freedom Act" which includes penalties of up to two years in prison for federal agents violating the law. Other than Alaska and Vermont, Wyoming is one of the most firearm-friendly States in the Union.
As a general rule, the States with the fewest number of people per square mile tend to be the most firearm-friendly. The States with the highest number of people per square mile tend to be the least firearm-friendly.
Thanks - I've been watching it for a year. I drove to Wyoming twice since this last May to get a sense of the area. I grew up in South Dakota, so I know winter! I was in Jackson in July and staying across the pass in Idaho for a few days ... Must say that drive over the pass at midnight (had to stay at the cowboy bar and do some boot scootin'!) gave me quite a scare - and that was summer. I can't imagine driving Teton pass in the winter, day OR night! That pass scares me more than weather!! So I wouldn't be living in Victor! As far as weather goes -- Hmmm... right to carry & need more blankets vs. no rights but warmer. I'll take the blankets! Plus - more cowboys and real men in Wyoming. Works for me!
Thanks - I've been watching it for a year. I drove to Wyoming twice since this last May to get a sense of the area. I grew up in South Dakota, so I know winter! I was in Jackson in July and staying across the pass in Idaho for a few days ... Must say that drive over the pass at midnight (had to stay at the cowboy bar and do some boot scootin'!) gave me quite a scare - and that was summer. I can't imagine driving Teton pass in the winter, day OR night! That pass scares me more than weather!! So I wouldn't be living in Victor! As far as weather goes -- Hmmm... right to carry & need more blankets vs. no rights but warmer. I'll take the blankets! Plus - more cowboys and real men in Wyoming. Works for me!
Welcome to the Free State of Wyoming. Remember when you're here that there is no requirement that you tell a cop you have a gun in a traffic stop or other encounter. In fact, state law doesn't even mention vehicle carrry. It's completely constitutional.
It's good to get some young blood. Now you marry one of those cowboys and have some kids you can teach about freedom.
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