That Stranded Canadian Hiker Who Ate His Dog To Survive... (rifle, handguns)

[picklejuice]

First, we wouldn't be having this discussion if we lived in Nam.

Second, think Donner Party. My animals are family, but I'd eat them before I'd eat human flesh.

Most of us have never suffered that kind of hunger--so we really don't know what we would be tempted to do.

I just finished reading the book, Into the Wild. Great read, and sorta along the same discussion lines.

Fact: unprepared people are dangerous to themselves and everything around them.

A great quote (from a book):
"Only when we have abundance, opportunity, and security can we afford to be revolted by rotted food, an ugly potential mate, or a neighbor’s licentious behavior. When survival is the only thing that counts we will eat anything we can, mate with whomever we can, and enlist the help of anyone who is available."

[124c41]

Like someone else mentioned, I, too, wonder how well prepared this man was, or did the bear attack completely wipe out all of what he had packed to bring? Killing his dog with a rock poses questions in my mind.

[jamies]

I admit I didn't read all the posts - but has anyone here seen "A Boy and His Dog?"

Boy has dog, meets girl in post apocalyptic world, many adventures, last scene walking into sunset, just the Boy and His Dog.

Boy says to dog in reference to girl, "She wasn't much to look at , but she had good taste."

And no offense - but do ya think that maybe if Canada didn't have stupid anti-gun laws, the guy would have had like maybe a .30-60 or a .44 Magnum revolver and he could have shot and eaten the BEAR, and not starved for three months.

I'm sorry but I simply can't imagine someone being so stupid as to go into the wilderness, especially the northern wilderness, without at least a high powered rifle. He wasn't like in an expedition climbing a mountain, he was on a 3 month canoe trip in bear country with a pile of tasty food.

Kind of like walking through Detroit with a Rolex I'd say.

[weltschmerz]

Originally Posted by arleigh

I am sure that there is much more to the story , but when push comes to shove hard choices have to be made .
If a bear ate all the provisions he had ,I am wondering what kind of defenses he had to begin with ?
Being poorly prepared to face those dangers is #1 problem.
Spending time in a predator's back yard ,is not to the time to go out there naked. That's just asking for trouble.
Having a weapon but being untrained or unpracticed is still unprepared.
In many cases that are means one can forage for food along the way, if one chooses to learn them.
There are a great many books out there for doing so .
But not all parts of the country are plentiful for food in the woods.
For those of you whom the dog greater than ones self ,by feeding one's self to the dog would then give him a taste for human flesh, there by becoming a greater threat to mankind , needing to be put down.

That`s absolute nonsemse.

[weltschmerz]

Originally Posted by jamies

I admit I didn't read all the posts - but has anyone here seen "A Boy and His Dog?"

Boy has dog, meets girl in post apocalyptic world, many adventures, last scene walking into sunset, just the Boy and His Dog.

Boy says to dog in reference to girl, "She wasn't much to look at , but she had good taste."

And no offense - but do ya think that maybe if Canada didn't have stupid anti-gun laws, the guy would have had like maybe a .30-60 or a .44 Magnum revolver and he could have shot and eaten the BEAR, and not starved for three months.

I'm sorry but I simply can't imagine someone being so stupid as to go into the wilderness, especially the northern wilderness, without at least a high powered rifle. He wasn't like in an expedition climbing a mountain, he was on a 3 month canoe trip in bear country with a pile of tasty food.

Kind of like walking through Detroit with a Rolex I'd say.

You'd be shocked at how many Canadians have shotguns and rifles. Ì'll bet he had at least one.

[bumpus7]

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If I am hungry and there is nothing to eat then I would eat any animal I could find.
If not found then I would eat the pets ... dog, cat, parrot, guinea pig, baby house pig,
pet snake, rabbit, mice, hamster, parakeet, etc.

I'll eat them Raw if Im have to including all of the innards,
because I eat rare steaks now ! ! !

If I live through it all, then I can always get another pet.

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[Phil306]

Originally Posted by Three Wolves In Snow

I think it's crap that he ate his dog. His dog paid the price because this guy did not prepare properly. If you are going out in to the wilderness for three fricken months, do you not foresee that you might run in to wild animals? And what kind of defense do you have against those wild animals? Did he know NOTHING about hunting? Using traps? (Not saying he had to carry traps with him, LEARN how to make them), just in case something happened?

You can all stand here and applaud him for "being so wise" as to eat his dog to survive, just mere days after he had no food, but I will not. He was an idiot for going out there in the first place, not having a clue how to survive. And the dog paid the ultimate price for it.

Lest anyone forget that he planned to be out there for three months....

Please do not interject with the dreaded "personal responsibility" aspect of life. No such thing is this world. Just do whatever you want and everything else be damned.

[bumpus7]

Originally Posted by Three Wolves In Snow

I think it's crap that he ate his dog. His dog paid the price because this guy did not prepare properly. If you are going out in to the wilderness for three fricken months, do you not foresee that you might run in to wild animals? And what kind of defense do you have against those wild animals? Did he know NOTHING about hunting? Using traps? (Not saying he had to carry traps with him, LEARN how to make them), just in case something happened?

You can all stand here and applaud him for "being so wise" as to eat his dog to survive, just mere days after he had no food, but I will not. He was an idiot for going out there in the first place, not having a clue how to survive. And the dog paid the ultimate price for it.

Lest anyone forget that he planned to be out there for three months....

He may have not been so wise but he did have enough wisdom
and did not go crazy, but instead he ate the dog and stay healthy,
and live, and did not starve to death.

.

[Magnatomicflux]

Originally Posted by jamies

I admit I didn't read all the posts - but has anyone here seen "A Boy and His Dog?"

Boy has dog, meets girl in post apocalyptic world, many adventures, last scene walking into sunset, just the Boy and His Dog.

Boy says to dog in reference to girl, "She wasn't much to look at , but she had good taste."

And no offense - but do ya think that maybe if Canada didn't have stupid anti-gun laws, the guy would have had like maybe a .30-60 or a .44 Magnum revolver and he could have shot and eaten the BEAR, and not starved for three months.

I'm sorry but I simply can't imagine someone being so stupid as to go into the wilderness, especially the northern wilderness, without at least a high powered rifle. He wasn't like in an expedition climbing a mountain, he was on a 3 month canoe trip in bear country with a pile of tasty food.

Kind of like walking through Detroit with a Rolex I'd say.

It's so anti-gun up here infact, that you probably can't even find a range that will let you shoot your .50 Barrett BMG that you bought, legally, in Canada.

Honestly, what in God's name do you think we do our hunting with up here? Snowshoes? lol

[spm62]

Originally Posted by breeinmo.

I wonder what he'd have done if his wife had been along for this adventure

He would probably eat his wife...uh..wait a minute....never mind.