Hampton Roads run down?

[VBeachChick]

Originally Posted by Emrak

There is only one truism on the internet and that is: online, people exaggerate in the same frequency that, in real life, people exceed the speed limit.

This post---along with others by you---exceeds the limits of credibility and is riddled with unsupported anecdotal evidence. For example, I could regale you with tales of Somali residents who lovingly talk about Gorbachev and give you names of politicians who send him gifts of flowers every year on his birthday. It does not make it so. Nor are you (or anyone else on here) going to talk to the politicians to find out if they do as I say they do.

All we have are real facts. HR is a cosmopolitan community featuring very conservative and traditional religious groups (headquarters of the Christian Broadcasting Network is in Va Beach) and far left, liberal groups (PETA is headquartered in Norfolk). There is a wide diversity of cultures and races from all parts of the world (The Philipine Cultural Center of VA is headquartered in Va Beach) and both the region of HR and the state is racially progressive (the 2nd black Governor ever was elected in VA in the early 90s). We know that most residents of HR were NOT born in the area. HR has esteemed bodies of learning (Ivy League College of William and Mary) and more...eclectic institutes (Edgar Cayce's Association for Research & Enlightenment in Va Beach...founded there because the infamous psychic had a vision that when society collapsed, the Va Beach area would be a haven). We know that HR has more colleges and universities than per capita than most metro areas, as we know that it has far more military installations than most metro areas.

That is some of the things we know, as facts. Everything else found here are just unsupported opinions.

Doug Wilder wasn't the 2nd. He was the 1st African-American to be elected Governor of any state (back in 1989). Deval Patrick of Massachusetts was the 2nd, nearly 20 years later.

[goofy328]

Originally Posted by 701RachelT123

We recently visited the Hampton Roads area, we stayed in Norfolk at the Best Western Holiday Sands Inn & Suite, and it all appeared to be run down, old, and unkempt. I am not implying that if a home is old it equals trashy. Did we just go to the wrong places? We did the whole tourist thing in Va beach and went up to Williamsburg. So we were primarily on the interstates. We could potentially be moving to the area next August so I am hoping that we just coincidently hit all the run down areas of the towns.

You went to the wrong places. Norfolk itself is run down like New York and Baltimore are run down. You have to keep it in perspective. Hampton Roads is NOT Northern Virginia, or Washington DC. If you want to see clean, try either lifestyle center/neighborhood in Virginia Beach, Hampton, or Greenbrier in Chesapeake. The rest of Hampton Roads is lived in, cluttered, etc. I've seen far worse than Hampton Roads so I don't complain.

[jobber123rd]

Originally Posted by Emrak

(the 2nd black Governor ever was elected in VA in the early 90s).

Originally Posted by VBeachChick

Doug Wilder wasn't the 2nd. He was the 1st African-American to be elected Governor of any state (back in 1989). Deval Patrick of Massachusetts was the 2nd, nearly 20 years later.

The only thing wrong with Emrak's statement was the year. It might appear that Emrak was implying that Wilder was the 2nd Black elected governor (in the US), but that wasn't it. Replace "the 2nd black Governor ever" with Wilder (since he was second, after Pinchback's six-week governorship during Reconstruction) and you have a true statement once you correct the year.

It's one of those cases where word order can make a big difference. Of course, Emrak's post was from over six years ago, so I'm don't expect a response about this.