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Old 04-11-2011, 11:50 AM
 
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According to this article, to extend light rail from Norfolk to VB would cost a whopping $807m dollars. I think it would be great to have the rail extended but at this price I am a bit skeptical. Anyone that has ridden the Metro in DC (just got back myself) can appreciate it but we don't have the density like they do in Nova to justify it imo. Maybe building in phases is the answer though it does drive up the price.

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Last edited by citydweller; 04-11-2011 at 12:33 PM.. Reason: change 'high' to 'light'. no high speed rail for us :(
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Old 04-11-2011, 12:21 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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you mean Light rail to VB , Intercity rail is being built form Norfolk to Richmond. Light Rail is best for Medium to High Density cities , or for connecting parts of the city. We use it to bridge the gaps in our system.
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Old 04-11-2011, 12:25 PM
 
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I thought the price was high. Plus, we don't need to make the mistakes that Norfolk made on their budget.
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Old 04-11-2011, 12:31 PM
 
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Yes, I meant light rail and not high speed... although high speed could be kinda cool.
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Old 04-11-2011, 01:13 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Yes, I meant light rail and not high speed... although high speed could be kinda cool.
You don't really need a Dense city for LR , just a Dense core. After a few years the LR corridor with become dense....with Newer Developments.
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:49 PM
 
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Anyone that has ridden the Metro in DC (just got back myself) can appreciate it but we don't have the density like they do in Nova to justify it imo.
But places don't start out dense. Like Nexis said, after the system is in place, you'll see building increase around it (especially near stops) causing the area around it to become more dense, and I'm sure NoVa was that way. And as far as VB goes, I'd like to see it densify in the northern half of the city instead of stretching its legs more and more into Pungo and southward, and light rail would help that happen.

If VB waits for it to be more dense to "justify" building LRT, they may run into problems when the time comes to build, and it costs MUCH more to dig underneath the built environment. In my opinion, now is the time to do it if its gonna be done.
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Old 04-12-2011, 08:36 PM
 
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I think it's a complete waste of money.
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Old 04-12-2011, 09:11 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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But places don't start out dense. Like Nexis said, after the system is in place, you'll see building increase around it (especially near stops) causing the area around it to become more dense, and I'm sure NoVa was that way. And as far as VB goes, I'd like to see it densify in the northern half of the city instead of stretching its legs more and more into Pungo and southward, and light rail would help that happen.

If VB waits for it to be more dense to "justify" building LRT, they may run into problems when the time comes to build, and it costs MUCH more to dig underneath the built environment. In my opinion, now is the time to do it if its gonna be done.
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I think it's a complete waste of money.
10 years form now the area where the starter line and future lines run through with be dense and look like a Urban Oasis.... Developments will fill in the gaps in the Downtown area and then slowly but surely fill up the corridor towards VB. Give it at least 5 years to mature and fit in with the community. Its like a New Highway.
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Old 04-13-2011, 08:42 AM
 
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Why has a crossing between the Southside and the peninsula not even been discussed/studied/reviewed? I'll tell you why - because this whole thing reeks of developer greed and stupid "visionary ideals" of the politicians of Norfolk and VB.

For 807 billion you could build another crossing to the peninsula from the area near Naval Station Norfolk and Hampton. Complete waste to run it from Norfolk to the oceanfront!! Anyone who travels from the oceanfront to Norfolk knows 264 traffic does not build until after Lynnhaven. Put it where we need it - on another water crossing not down to a primarily tourist destination. And for that cost - we can't afford so stop dreaming and start spending responsibly.
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Old 04-13-2011, 08:43 AM
 
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edit: 807 million (not billion)
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