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Old 07-26-2012, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Portsmouth, VA
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Yes I am familiar with the fact that there is plenty of vacant land in downtown Norfolk but I really think they should get rid of the housing projects and replace them with Section 8 housing, or at least something that looks better than what is currently in place. It is a bad look, and will inevitably stand in the way of progress. We all know it is not a matter of if downtown Norfolk grows again, but when.
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Old 07-27-2012, 06:41 AM
 
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Section 8 will look no better. People have to be vested in their community before they care for it. Home ownership will have to increase if you want it to look pretty.
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Old 07-27-2012, 02:34 PM
 
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What's the difference? Section 8 housing versus apartments? They aren't paying for either. We are as tax payers so I frankly could careless about whether it looks better or not.
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:43 AM
 
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Yes I am familiar with the fact that there is plenty of vacant land in downtown Norfolk but I really think they should get rid of the housing projects and replace them with Section 8 housing, or at least something that looks better than what is currently in place. It is a bad look, and will inevitably stand in the way of progress. We all know it is not a matter of if downtown Norfolk grows again, but when.
That's exactly what the NRHA did in the 50s when they built the current projects. Before those barrack-style buildings were there, those areas were filled with dilapidated housing post-Depression that Norfolk deemed as slums. Once WWII was over, and housing became a priority, the NRHA decided it would be better to bulldoze the communities there instead of rehabilitating them and replace them with "better looking" housing projects. The idea behind it was that if we give these poor people a better looking place to live, it will improve their ethical and moral behavior and choices. Wrong.

All they did was destroy an established community and replace it with housing that was just as bad, and displaced thousands of people because they didn't build enough new housing. Urban renewal projects like this happened everywhere post-WWII, and the majority of them began with the same philosophy you have: the city's poor and their neighborhoods are "a bad look, and will inevitably stand in the way of progress." Fact is, replacing an already poor neighborhood with a so-called "better looking" one will not change the societal problems of the urban poor. We already tried it, so instead let's learn from our mistakes.
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Old 12-22-2015, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, VA
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That's exactly what the NRHA did in the 50s when they built the current projects. Before those barrack-style buildings were there, those areas were filled with dilapidated housing post-Depression that Norfolk deemed as slums. Once WWII was over, and housing became a priority, the NRHA decided it would be better to bulldoze the communities there instead of rehabilitating them and replace them with "better looking" housing projects. The idea behind it was that if we give these poor people a better looking place to live, it will improve their ethical and moral behavior and choices. Wrong.

All they did was destroy an established community and replace it with housing that was just as bad, and displaced thousands of people because they didn't build enough new housing. Urban renewal projects like this happened everywhere post-WWII, and the majority of them began with the same philosophy you have: the city's poor and their neighborhoods are "a bad look, and will inevitably stand in the way of progress." Fact is, replacing an already poor neighborhood with a so-called "better looking" one will not change the societal problems of the urban poor. We already tried it, so instead let's learn from our mistakes.
Urban renewal was a massive failure all across the county. The only thing is, if you get rid of those projects, you need to have a plan on where those people will go (if they are to continue to stay in the system). I believe this is the only reason why the few housing projects that remain in this country are still standing.
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Old 12-22-2015, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Have you seen the section 8 housing in the Newport News East End? It doesn't look that great.
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