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Old 08-16-2013, 07:12 AM
 
Location: From TX to VA
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I think that it's as misleading to characterize all of Hampton and Newport News as ghetto as it is to characterize all of Norfolk that way.
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I think we're doing a disservice to people who are moving to the area when we discount Hampton, Newport News and Norfolk out of hand. If they choose wisely, people can live really well in these areas.
I agree with this. Good points.
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Old 08-16-2013, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Roanoke, VA
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It is also misleading to call NN "very urban." For the most part, in the "safe areas" it's a sprawling suburb with all that entails.
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Old 08-16-2013, 09:06 AM
 
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Virginia Beach, I wouldn't recommend. High cost of living, horrible traffic, non-pedestrian friendly, rude/finicky people, xtianity practised at a faux level, lack of culture&diversity, cut n paste style (or lack) format for the architectural design for subdivisions, shopping centers, and businesses in general, and the weather is unpredictable.
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Old 08-16-2013, 09:28 AM
 
Location: From TX to VA
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Virginia Beach, I wouldn't recommend. High cost of living, horrible traffic, non-pedestrian friendly, rude/finicky people, xtianity practised at a faux level, lack of culture&diversity, cut n paste style (or lack) format for the architectural design for subdivisions, shopping centers, and businesses in general, and the weather is unpredictable.
I feel that this one is misleading as well. I'll agree on the high cost of living and the awful traffic but as for the people being rude or fake christians, I don't find that to be the case at all. You get as good as you give.

Cut n paste style (or lack) format for subdivision designs? Have you driven around the city? I'm not a native, but I don't find that the subdivisions all look alike. Nor do the shopping centers or businesses. There are a myriad of differences between them.

The weather? Please. Virginia Beach does not have its own separate weather.

Sounds to me as if you can't or won't find anything positive about Virginia Beach.

Last edited by LilyLady; 08-16-2013 at 09:54 AM.. Reason: Turned some words around.
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Old 08-16-2013, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Roanoke, VA
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An article about Virginia Beach.

Va. Beach looks at creating urban feel | WVEC.com Norfolk - Hampton Roads
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Old 08-16-2013, 10:21 AM
 
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Interesting story, TN Lily. I guess the starting point will be to see what the Planning Commission says next month. Thanks for posting that link.
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Old 08-16-2013, 10:28 AM
 
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I feel that this one is misleading as well. I'll agree on the high cost of living and the awful traffic but as for the people being rude or fake christians, I don't find that to be the case at all. You get as good as you give.

Cut n paste style (or lack) format for subdivision designs? Have you driven around the city? I'm not a native, but I don't find that the subdivisions all look alike. Nor do the shopping centers or businesses. There are a myriad of differences between them.

The weather? Please. Virginia Beach does not have its own separate weather.

Sounds to me as if you can't or won't find anything positive about Virginia Beach.
'You'll get as good as you'll give' is a rather disillusioned perspective considering the amount of transient people that flock in and out of this city that don't stay long enough to establish any close ties. The question regarding as to whether I have driven around the city needs to be redirected at you since it is painfully apparent that there are of lack of 'ma and pa' shops, along with any other independent operated establishment. Conformity and uniformity is promoted in this city as a way of life, along with aesthetics to appease the tourist so the city can expand the faux metropolitan area wannabe 'Town Center'. You are easily impressed, I see.
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Old 08-16-2013, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Norfolk, VA
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Newport News is urban. Yes, the areas people desire to live in are suburban, but that is the case with most cities in America. That doesn't take away from the fact that Newport News is as urban as Norfolk, if not more, in areas.

I actually like Newport News. I just wish the desirable areas were as urban as the undesirable areas are.
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Old 08-16-2013, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Roanoke, VA
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Goofy328, where is NN urban other than the old downtown area? From what I have seen most of the houses are in subdivisions with no sidewalks. There are strip shopping centers and one mall that all scream suburban rather than urban. D.C. is urban. Parts of No. Va., especially inside the Beltway are urban. Much of Richmond proper is urban. But NN???? We'll disagree on this one.
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Old 08-16-2013, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Norfolk, VA
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Goofy328, where is NN urban other than the old downtown area? From what I have seen most of the houses are in subdivisions with no sidewalks. There are strip shopping centers and one mall that all scream suburban rather than urban. D.C. is urban. Parts of No. Va., especially inside the Beltway are urban. Much of Richmond proper is urban. But NN???? We'll disagree on this one.
Outside of the old downtown area you have slums that could technically be considered urban. You're splitting hairs on how dense NN is in comparison to Richmond, DC, and NoVa, which is an entirely different argument. Everyone knows what is considered urban in HR, and what is urban in Central and Northern Virginia are two entirely different things.

That's like saying Ohio isn't urban because it pales in comparison to Illinois.
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