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Old 08-13-2013, 06:04 PM
 
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As I read more about this area, I don't understand why this region never became more of a metropolis.
Not that HR is not developed, it is, but it's not a major US market like a Philadelphia/Baltimore/Pittsburgh and it doesn't add up.

Consider that HR is located on perhaps the best harbor on the East Coast. It's ice free, large, sheltered, and has easier access to the Northeast and Southeast than Baltimore.

HR is on relatively level, fertile grounds. It also was one of the first U.S. mainland areas discovered.
So given all of these factors, how come HR never developed a major CBD or Financial District nor grew to be a metropolis like Baltimore or Pittsburgh?
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Old 08-13-2013, 09:57 PM
 
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1) Military. The needs of the navy and air force are put first.
2) Residents get riled up and defiant whenever any sort of future development is discussed.
3) Poorly planned, like most other areas on the eastern seaboard.
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Old 08-13-2013, 10:15 PM
 
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We're also basically in a crappy location transportation wise. You don't pass through HR. If you come here it's because you want too. We're the cul-de-sac of the east coast.
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Old 08-14-2013, 07:06 AM
 
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Until the 7 cities consolidate into one, or at least the 5 lower cities do so, this place will never grow into a major metropolis.
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Old 08-14-2013, 07:15 AM
 
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One more point, generally, the residents around here do not want to live in a major metropolis. When I informed my former co-workers of the two cities I was interested in moving to, not one said anything positive about it. Their comments were as follows: "why are you moving to such a crowded place?", "what, are you some city slicker or something?", "it's too cold there," and so on. None could understand why I would want to live in such an urban environment. I just smiled and nodded my head.
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Old 08-14-2013, 09:35 AM
 
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Va Beach/Norfolk is below sea level which makes certain infrastructure systems challenging to build
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Old 08-14-2013, 09:49 AM
 
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What's your cutoff for a major metropolitan area? Hampton Roads is around 35 or so in the US SMSAs. It is higher/bigger than say Austin, New Orleans,Raleigh and lots more. It has over a million people in the area, there are specific goods and services unique to this metro area- primarily defense and shipbuilding. What about these makes it less of a metro area than those cities you listed? It is not centralized with a defined city center but that seems to be its nature. Baltimore is not a financial district nor is Pittsburg. Not sure what criterion you are using to determine HR is not a major metro area.Statistically it is. Culturally it is for some and not for others. It is generally not urbane or sophisticated and tends to play the lowest common denominator socially. It is not my cup of tea but that does not make it any less significant or major.
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Old 08-14-2013, 10:07 AM
 
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Va Beach/Norfolk is below sea level which makes certain infrastructure systems challenging to build
The average elevation of VA Beach is 12 feet above sea level, and it's 7 feet in Norfolk. While it is true small parts of both cities may sit at or below sea level it is not like NOLA where the whole are is below sea level. I know my house sits 23 feet above sea level.
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Old 08-14-2013, 05:48 PM
 
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Top 25 market around the size of Baltimore with a large cbd and skyscrapers.
I don't get why this never happened to HR when Philly, Pit, or Bal became top 25 markets.
This is pre interstate so the cul de sac is not a factor.
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Old 08-14-2013, 06:03 PM
 
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Top 25 market around the size of Baltimore with a large cbd and skyscrapers.
I don't get why this never happened to HR when Philly, Pit, or Bal became top 25 markets.
This is pre interstate so the cul de sac is not a factor.
Per interstate it was even harder to get here. The cities you named are all on major transportation routes even before the interstate.
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