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Old 03-16-2014, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Norfolk, VA
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Should we just abandon the Southside and build up the Peninsula? After all, the Southside is sinking and the Peninsula is dis-invested. Just build up Newport News, forget about running 4 lanes each side of I-64 to Richmond and make a go of it?

Not my idea, but some rhetoric that is floating around in the Pilot today. Now I am for building up the Peninsula; some parts are just urban (if not more) than some areas of the Southside. But does it have to be one or the other? ALL of Hampton Roads needs to be developed. As it is vain attempts at gentrification want to push the poor out to the southern parts of Virginia Beach and Chesapeake while the working class people take over the downtown areas and the northern parts of those cities. Or perhaps the poor will just skip the southern parts altogether or move out to the exurbs. Have to put them somewhere.

Just frustrated this is another one of my occasional rants about the small minds of some in HR; I honestly do not see why this region could not be several times greater than it already is. There is just too much land, and too many people, for this region not to move forward. I guess I should be grateful for the patchwork/piecemeal development that does exist in the 757.
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Old 03-19-2014, 01:33 PM
 
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maybe they want to keep it just the way it is.
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Old 03-19-2014, 02:57 PM
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Location: Durham, NC
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How about one city on each side of the water at a time? Norfolk and Newport News to start since they seem to be the cities with the most potential.
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Old 03-19-2014, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Newport News, Virginia
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Since I live in Newport News, I would say yes, they should definitely abandon the rest of Hampton Roads and put all their money and resources into building up just Newport News (most particularly, the CNU area).

No, but seriously, a big part of why we like living in Newport News is because (as my husband and I joke often) it's close to places we want to be. It would definitely cut down on our enjoyment of the area if they just let Southside sink into the ocean (although I suppose that would actually bring the beach closer to us...) and we are definitely looking forward to the renovations on I-64, so we're not always getting stuck in traffic jams on the way up to Williamsburg.

So, (damnit!) I guess I'd have to say it would be better to share the wealth and build up the entire area. I think, in the long run, it would be better for all the municipalities, including Newport News.
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Old 03-23-2014, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Norfolk, VA
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maybe they want to keep it just the way it is.
I am starting to think that this is the case.
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Old 03-24-2014, 12:10 PM
 
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Should we just abandon the Southside and build up the Peninsula? After all, the Southside is sinking and the Peninsula is dis-invested. Just build up Newport News, forget about running 4 lanes each side of I-64 to Richmond and make a go of it?

Not my idea, but some rhetoric that is floating around in the Pilot today. Now I am for building up the Peninsula; some parts are just urban (if not more) than some areas of the Southside. But does it have to be one or the other? ALL of Hampton Roads needs to be developed. As it is vain attempts at gentrification want to push the poor out to the southern parts of Virginia Beach and Chesapeake while the working class people take over the downtown areas and the northern parts of those cities. Or perhaps the poor will just skip the southern parts altogether or move out to the exurbs. Have to put them somewhere.

Just frustrated this is another one of my occasional rants about the small minds of some in HR; I honestly do not see why this region could not be several times greater than it already is. There is just too much land, and too many people, for this region not to move forward. I guess I should be grateful for the patchwork/piecemeal development that does exist in the 757.
I think your assumptions are false. Both areas are sinking due to subsidence ( Study: Sinking land, not rising seas, a bigger worry | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com )

and sea level rise will impact both areas.





Most of Newport News does look like it will fare better than the rest of the region. But Poquoson, Hampton, and Northern York County are just as bad as anyplace on the Southside.

It certainly does raise the question of what parts of the region should be targeted for higher density development though. My hope would be NOT the areas in red because we won't be able to build walls around everything.. there is just too much water.

Flood insurance premiums will certainly have an impact as well, folks will be less willing to build in low-lying areas if the federal government stops subsidizing their insurance.

Flood insurance rates are on the rise in Virginia | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

So my answer is no, don't abandon the southside because of something that will likely be a problem in 100 years. But we do need to be smarter about where and how we develop going forward.
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Old 04-25-2014, 08:16 PM
 
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They way I see it Hampton Roads is built up, I mean come on now on the southside U have Suffolk,Norfolk,Portsmouth,Chesapeake, & Virginia Beach which is 5 cities right beside each other. U cross the bridge U in another city.
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