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Old 07-28-2016, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Danville, VA
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Old 07-28-2016, 03:05 PM
 
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"The district doesn’t use federal, state or local taxes to operate or maintain the bridge"

So, the entire $756 million comes from tolls and restaurant profits? Why does that sound unlikely to me?
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Old 07-28-2016, 09:14 PM
 
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I can't find it now, but I recall that when they first started planning the expansion, the CBBT people said they had $400+ million in the bank and were going to borrow the rest since interest rates are so low.
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Old 07-29-2016, 04:15 AM
 
Location: Danville, VA
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I can't find it now, but I recall that when they first started planning the expansion, the CBBT people said they had $400+ million in the bank and were going to borrow the rest since interest rates are so low.
That sounds more like it.
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Old 07-29-2016, 04:56 AM
 
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And the HRBT continues to suck the life out of Hampton Roads. How many studies will it take until something comes to fruition with the hot mess that is the Hampton Roads Bridge Tunnel?
I'm kind of appalled that the CBBT expansion has been green lighted and the HRBT continues to languish, unbelievable.
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Old 07-29-2016, 09:05 AM
 
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And the HRBT continues to suck the life out of Hampton Roads. How many studies will it take until something comes to fruition with the hot mess that is the Hampton Roads Bridge Tunnel?
I'm kind of appalled that the CBBT expansion has been green lighted and the HRBT continues to languish, unbelievable.
You do realize you're talking about two completely different animals? The CBBT has a toll that ranges from $13 to $15 for a simple passenger vehicle. The CBBT is also managed by its own state organization. They fund their own projects and do their own thing.

The HRBT has no toll, is run by the state, and competes with every other road project.

You can't be mad at the project when you're comparing apples to oranges.
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Old 07-29-2016, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Danville, VA
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And the HRBT continues to suck the life out of Hampton Roads. How many studies will it take until something comes to fruition with the hot mess that is the Hampton Roads Bridge Tunnel?
I'm kind of appalled that the CBBT expansion has been green lighted and the HRBT continues to languish, unbelievable.
I agree that the HRBT needs expansion ASAP, but unlike the HRBT, VDOT doesn't have jurisdiction of the CBBT (other than route numbering, since it's technically part of a US Route). I can pretty much guarantee that if the CBBT was under VDOT's jurisdiction, we wouldn't be hearing news of it's expansion.
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Old 07-29-2016, 02:58 PM
 
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You do realize you're talking about two completely different animals? The CBBT has a toll that ranges from $13 to $15 for a simple passenger vehicle. The CBBT is also managed by its own state organization. They fund their own projects and do their own thing.

The HRBT has no toll, is run by the state, and competes with every other road project.

You can't be mad at the project when you're comparing apples to oranges.
Can't imagine life without you Coconut.....
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Old 08-01-2016, 09:09 AM
 
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Default Poquoson and Coconut

Have you two ever met it the real world? Maybe you guys should go on a date and work out your differences. You have heard that opposites attract.. I love you both because I have used your arguments to augment my decision making on picking my place to live. I somehow achieve balance in between the counter views. Thanks to you both.
Alan W.
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Old 08-01-2016, 09:57 AM
 
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HRBT won't get any attention until our elected officials travel beyond the beltway and realize that there are other parts of the state besides NOVA. I think they are afraid to venture out....
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