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Old 10-20-2009, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach/Norfolk.
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Gun maker to move headquarters to Beach, hire 35 | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com
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Old 10-20-2009, 03:56 PM
 
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Great info thanks. My husband will have to look into this.
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Old 10-20-2009, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach/Norfolk.
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No problemo, I think it smacks everyone on city data that says companines move to HR in search of paying locals low wages. $72,000 is good money in Hampton Roads.
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Old 10-20-2009, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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Let me get them all out of the way now:

1) These jobs are not "creative class"
2) $72,000 is not really a lot anyway
3) Not government
4) Might become government, then it will be too government
5) Government just right
6) Traffic sucks
7) You need a certification to get these jobs to make more money, but it's not worth getting the certification because it costs money. Or something.
8) City is getting old. Everyone will die of arthritis.
9) Train won't work to get to these jobs. Or at all.
10) Flooding will raise sea level to just above the building these jobs will be in
11) City has no soul (pick a city)
12) Houses cost too much for income, too little for my taste, are cookie cutter solutions, schools are horrible, and neighbors suck
13) A black man might rob your parked car so don't come to Hampton Roads

Tongue out of cheek, good news for the metro area
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Old 10-21-2009, 04:44 AM
 
Location: Va Beach
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Originally Posted by GeorgiaTransplant View Post
Let me get them all out of the way now:

1) These jobs are not "creative class"
2) $72,000 is not really a lot anyway
3) Not government
4) Might become government, then it will be too government
5) Government just right
6) Traffic sucks
7) You need a certification to get these jobs to make more money, but it's not worth getting the certification because it costs money. Or something.
8) City is getting old. Everyone will die of arthritis.
9) Train won't work to get to these jobs. Or at all.
10) Flooding will raise sea level to just above the building these jobs will be in
11) City has no soul (pick a city)
12) Houses cost too much for income, too little for my taste, are cookie cutter solutions, schools are horrible, and neighbors suck
13) A black man might rob your parked car so don't come to Hampton Roads

Tongue out of cheek, good news for the metro area
All the above sounds like Georgia!
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Old 10-21-2009, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Not only are these more government tit jobs, but read the article carefully

"Those new jobs - which will include midlevel management, engineers and technicians - will have an average salary of $72,778, according to a city news release."

1. "Average" is a complete and total farce, and one of the most easily skewed measurements on the planet. This "average" could include 1 or 2 insanely high paying jobs, which will probably go to a non local, and a bunch of lower end jobs (which also may be farmed out to non locals).

2. There is no mention of whether or not benefit values are included in that figure (they often are). The cash value of all my benefits would tack another 8-10k on to my salary, however, it wouldnt improve my buying power any.
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Old 10-21-2009, 09:39 AM
 
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Originally Posted by GeorgiaTransplant View Post
Let me get them all out of the way now:

1) These jobs are not "creative class"
2) $72,000 is not really a lot anyway
3) Not government
4) Might become government, then it will be too government
5) Government just right
6) Traffic sucks
7) You need a certification to get these jobs to make more money, but it's not worth getting the certification because it costs money. Or something.
8) City is getting old. Everyone will die of arthritis.
9) Train won't work to get to these jobs. Or at all.
10) Flooding will raise sea level to just above the building these jobs will be in
11) City has no soul (pick a city)
12) Houses cost too much for income, too little for my taste, are cookie cutter solutions, schools are horrible, and neighbors suck
13) A black man might rob your parked car so don't come to Hampton Roads

Tongue out of cheek, good news for the metro area
HAHAHAHAHA oh man I'm dying laughing!!!
Too funny!

I was thinking the same thing. $2 mil for the bossman, 25K for the workers.

They need robotz with CNC skills.
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Old 10-21-2009, 08:51 PM
 
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While any jobs coming to this area is a plus, 35 jobs for a metro of 1.6 million or so people is barely worth mentioning.
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Old 10-21-2009, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach/Norfolk.
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While any jobs coming to this area is a plus, 35 jobs for a metro of 1.6 million or so people is barely worth mentioning.
Oh Okay, sorry. Didn't mean to post something helpful to 35 families in Hampton Roads. Next time I'll make sure I post somthing you think is significant.
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Old 10-21-2009, 09:48 PM
 
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Sorry, if your post was meant to advertise possible job opportunities to people who may be looking then that is one thing and that is helpful.

It seemed like your post was just trying to prove that people that say HR is known for it's low paying jobs are wrong and my only point is that 35 jobs in a region this large doesn't really prove that.
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