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Old 04-29-2017, 10:22 PM
 
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A similar thing happened in Queens , NY. An ex con just took over an elderly ladies home, removed her possessions, changed locks, and made himself the new owner, with a deed and all.

this lady used the home to store family heirlooms, and had a long battle to get her property back, minus the lost valuables. the crook did not face much reprocussions when finally evicted.

morale of the story, keep tabs on your property. If there is a problems, have some people "take care of it" , or let a few hungry pit bulls loose in the house, and pour gravy on the illegal occupants.
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Old 04-30-2017, 08:03 AM
 
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A similar thing happened in Queens , NY. An ex con just took over an elderly ladies home, removed her possessions, changed locks, and made himself the new owner, with a deed and all.

this lady used the home to store family heirlooms, and had a long battle to get her property back, minus the lost valuables. the crook did not face much reprocussions when finally evicted.

morale of the story, keep tabs on your property. If there is a problems, have some people "take care of it" , or let a few hungry pit bulls loose in the house, and pour gravy on the illegal occupants.
He was charged with forgery ,he had no legal rights to tenancy.

That Queens home was a secondary piece of real estate for its owner. Not used as a residency. Still it belonged to her. He resided in the basement. That house wasn't exactly moderate ..Not sure it was livable to begin with..
Guess jailbirds are just like some nature birds who use others nest..Then flee.
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Old 04-30-2017, 10:25 AM
 
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Your friend should contact an agency that advocates for disabled persons. There are attorneys available to help disabled or elderly, contact 2-1-1.org and ask questions and get the names and contact information of agencies that can help.
Simply go to the website above, or dial 211 from your land line or cell 24/7. Volunteers are trained to help you identify what agency you need and provide you with their contact info.
Good luck to you.
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Old 04-30-2017, 10:37 AM
 
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Let me throw a true one your way.

15 years ago my dad sold a house he owned to a dentist. The Dentist has been through a divorce, etc. but had a small down payment so my dad sold him the house with a 5 year balloon interest-only loan.

The loan was never called - but the guy kept paying every money and this went on for 10 years. The relationship was friendly and the buyer would occasionally inquire about the balance (maybe he found a better interest rate).

Fast forward to last year. A slick lawyer gets ahold of the Dentist and tells him he doesn't owe my dad a dime (mort was 75K) because my dad didn't refile the mortgage. In fact, he points to a law where it can be possible to "grab back" a lot of the money paid in already since the time period of the mortgage expired long ago.

This despite the mortgage and loan papers being full filed in the county, etc - that is, the loan shows up with any search

Does that pass the smell test?

In case you think it doesn't - they went to the first arbitration meeting with a retired and very knowledgeable judge and he indicated he's likely to invalidate the mortgage. Costs started adding up (non-binding arbitration can be very expensive when combined with the lawyers fees). Also, my dad now lives out of state and they wanted him to show up for every meeting.

My dad took my advice and settled for 22K (out of 75). But, please, never believe that a certified check, a bank wire or even a mortgage means solid cash....
So why did your dad not call the loan after the 5 years was up? You can't make bad business decisions and expect the courts to bail you out.
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Old 04-30-2017, 10:40 AM
 
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A similar thing happened in Queens , NY. An ex con just took over an elderly ladies home, removed her possessions, changed locks, and made himself the new owner, with a deed and all.

this lady used the home to store family heirlooms, and had a long battle to get her property back, minus the lost valuables. the crook did not face much reprocussions when finally evicted.

morale of the story, keep tabs on your property. If there is a problems, have some people "take care of it" , or let a few hungry pit bulls loose in the house, and pour gravy on the illegal occupants.
How does one make themselves the new owner with a deed without a paper trail leading back to the current owner?
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Old 04-30-2017, 11:00 AM
 
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How does one make themselves the new owner with a deed without a paper trail leading back to the current owner?
It's called forgery.
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Old 04-30-2017, 11:07 AM
 
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Your friend should contact an agency that advocates for disabled persons. There are attorneys available to help disabled or elderly, contact 2-1-1.org and ask questions and get the names and contact information of agencies that can help.
Simply go to the website above, or dial 211 from your land line or cell 24/7. Volunteers are trained to help you identify what agency you need and provide you with their contact info.
Good luck to you.
He's (supposedly) in Peru and broke. Can't afford the long distance international call, I'll bet.
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Old 04-30-2017, 01:00 PM
 
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It's called forgery.

That is an issue. There should be heavy penalties for squatters and trying to steal someones house. If someone was to steal an asset from other person or business worth say $300,000 they would likely be looking at a long jail sentence. Should be more than mere forgery. They should be locked up for a long time.

Where I live you need to have a deed and even a car title notarized before transfer. But the whole notary process of a stamp and log book are so out of date, 19th century out of date. When someone presents a notarized deed the county has no way easy way to know if its legit. Once its recorded its such a mess to walk it back.

Should be handled online with the county being able to verify the notaries endorsement.

Last edited by Oklazona Bound; 04-30-2017 at 01:19 PM..
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Old 04-30-2017, 01:04 PM
 
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He's (supposedly) in Peru and broke. Can't afford the long distance international call, I'll bet.
I would think one can live pretty well in Peru on $950 a month. Cost of living is less than 1/2 of the states.

I know retired Americans living here than do fine on $1500 a month. Enough for rent, food and spending money. This guy is living on what is equivalent to about $2200 a month. Sometimes things go wrong. Let the house go stop beating yourself up over it and enjoy a comfortable South American life. Could be worse.
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Old 04-30-2017, 04:17 PM
 
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How does one make themselves the new owner with a deed without a paper trail leading back to the current owner?

"sovereign citizens" try this from time to time

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...ters_bywa.html
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