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Old 10-21-2020, 10:28 AM
 
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And the University of Maryland, the "flagship" of the state system is in Hyattsville, MD (more or less) not the capital of Annapolis.

The state system in PA was designed to place colleges so students were no more than 75 miles from one (using the population when it was initiated). That was also taken into consideration when the branch campuses of both it and Pitt were developed. Penn State was placed in the geographic center of the state because the land for it was donated:
https://www.psu.edu/this-is-penn-state/our-history

Some of you sound like you grew up in Maryland.
Hyattsville is just a smidge up the road from College Park, but, nowadays at least, nobody would consider the University of Maryland flagship as being anywere other than College Park (it's officially referred to in the UM system as "University of Maryland - College Park" or "UMCP.")

As far as the UMD flagship not being in the state capital -- Annapolis is, in physical terms, a tiny town, and what spread-out landscape there is that would be available for a flagship campus is pretty much already occupied, by the United States Naval Academy.

(I actually grew up in eastern-central Pennsylvania but have been in Maryland since 1986.)
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Old 10-21-2020, 11:23 AM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Hyattsville is just a smidge up the road from College Park, but, nowadays at least, nobody would consider the University of Maryland flagship as being anywere other than College Park (it's officially referred to in the UM system as "University of Maryland - College Park" or "UMCP.")

As far as the UMD flagship not being in the state capital -- Annapolis is, in physical terms, a tiny town, and what spread-out landscape there is that would be available for a flagship campus is pretty much already occupied, by the United States Naval Academy.

(I actually grew up in eastern-central Pennsylvania but have been in Maryland since 1986.)

But that's what the whiny ***** in this thread is about-that the state's flagship university isn't in the state capital.

Harrisburg was also, and in many ways is still, a small city with a population of 49,000. Annapolis is 39,000.

As far as physical size goes Annapolis is 11.1 sq. mi. while Harrisburg is 11.8. Population density for Annapolis is a bit above 5400/sq. mi. while Harrisburg is a bit below 6100/sq. mi.

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Old 10-21-2020, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Center City Philadelphia
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But that's what the whiny ***** in this thread is about-that the state's flagship university isn't in the state capital.

Harrisburg was also, and in many ways is still, a small city with a population of 49,000. Annapolis is 39,000.

As far as physical size goes Annapolis is 11.1 sq. mi. while Harrisburg is 11.8. Population density for Annapolis is a bit above 5400/sq. mi. while Harrisburg is a bit below 6100/sq. mi.
Harrisburg's population peaked at 90,000 and has the bones of a much larger city than Annapolis.

I mean I think we all get the reason why Penn State was placed where it was, for better or worse, I think many of us are just arguing it was for the worse, and the state's flagship university being placed in Harrisburg would have been far better for its state capital city than where it is now.
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Old 10-21-2020, 11:45 AM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Harrisburg's population peaked at 90,000 and has the bones of a much larger city than Annapolis.
Yet their physical size isn't much different although the numbers include water.
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Old 10-21-2020, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Agree with others that if Penn State was placed in Harrisburg (as it should have been!) it would have been a game changer. Even Penn State "Harrisburg" is in Middletown.
The fact that Penn State Harrisburg was situated in Middletown* owes more to happenstance than to any planning on the part of the university. The Harrisburg campus was originally the site of Olmsted Air Force Base, which the Air Force decided to decommission and close in phases during the 1960s. The administrative and residential portion of the base was transferred to Penn State, which decided to utilize the facilities to create an upper division (junior/senior) and graduate college. Olmsted’s airfield was transferred to the Commonwealth, which then converted it into Harrisburg International Airport.

*Appropriate to Pennsylvania’s infuriatingly fragmented landscape of over 2,500 self-interested municipalities: Penn State “Harrisburg” which is in “Middletown” is actually in Lower Swatara Township.
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