U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Hawaii
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 06-30-2013, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Ormond Beach, FL
1,615 posts, read 1,950,743 times
Reputation: 1684

Advertisements

Being liberal or progressive is relative. Eighty years ago social security was a radical idea. 10 years ago everyone accepted social security. In the 60s civil rights for minorities were established, in the 70s women's reproductive rights were established. In the 90s no one expressed interest in going backward. Now if you want to save any of the rights you are considered liberal by the tea partiers that want to go back to the 1920s.

So if you have been living in Hawaii the last 10 years, you maybe thinking not much progress is being made, and Hawaii is not very liberal or progressive, but in the US south we are fighting to prevent going backwards. In Virginia the Republican Party had a closed convention to nominate the candidates for governor, lt. Governor and Attorney General to ensure tea party backed candidates won, and held primaries for delegate to ensure tea party challengers would win.

So by standing still, Hawaii is more liberal than southern states which have well financed groups that want to go backwards in time.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-30-2013, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Eureka CA
9,519 posts, read 13,805,560 times
Reputation: 15022
No gay marriage and no marijuana dispensaries. The Mormon church is still very powerful in Hawaii.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-30-2013, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Ormond Beach, FL
1,615 posts, read 1,950,743 times
Reputation: 1684
North Carolina now allows anyone to carry a handgun in restaurants that serve liquor and guns are allowed on all public schools. They also allow companies to frack and not disclose what is in the fracking liquid.

Virginia has a war on women's health and reproductive rights and wants to have an non traditional off year redistricting, the governor accepts 6,000 dollar Rolex watches from businessmen that want to launch products at the governors mansion and several state legislators now favor uranium mining after taking an "educational" trip to France.

Texas is Texas and is immediately implementing laws that were blocked by the voting rights act. The Wisconsin governor broke government employees unions there last year and the list goes on and on. The mainland is caught up in fights with a tea party funded with Koch brothers money. In Hawaii tea is still associated with growing and drinking and not a flight backward.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-30-2013, 07:33 PM
 
81 posts, read 194,426 times
Reputation: 113
Fredesch, admittedly both parties haves their issues (problems). Unfortunately here in the islands we have a one party system. I guess you can say it makes for very effective government if the goal is to push through left leaning agendas in the legislature. Not a whole lot of balance but then there's not a whole lot of voter turnout.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-01-2013, 08:32 PM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
6,657 posts, read 7,371,945 times
Reputation: 3135
Here is a few firsts from Hawai'i.



Disappeared News: Hawaii Sen. Akaka was first to vote against going to war in Iraq



http://thegardenisland.com/news/loca...a4bcf887a.html


You guys have some really thoughtful post Mahalo, i am learning new things
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-02-2013, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
13,569 posts, read 9,551,412 times
Reputation: 8234
Quote:
Originally Posted by oregonwoodsmoke View Post
Hawaii is pro-labor union and that is politically liberal. You can not do your own plumbing or electrical work. You are required by law to hire a very expensive union plumber or electrician.

Hawaii requires employers to provide health insurance for any employee who works 20 hours or more. That's liberal. That also keeps the unemployment numbers high because it is too expensive to hire full time workers.

Liberals feel the good of society comes ahead of the rights of the individual, and Hawaii has their Ohana culture, which basically says the same thing.

Hawaii is very heavily taxed and not much given back to the taxpayers because welfare costs are so heavy. That's politically liberal.

Things like gay marriage are social tolerance issues, not political issues and are neither conservative nor liberal. Since many conservatives believe the rights of the individual come ahead of the rights of the masses, they are live and let live and they will acknowledge the rights of homosexuals to be married. ls Don't confuse the religious right with conservative. Not the same thing at all. There are both liberals and conservatives that support gay marriage; the issue does not divide along party lines.
Hawaii is also generally very pro-military, given the many military bases in the state. So sometimes political labels aren't all that meaningful.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-03-2013, 06:45 PM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
6,657 posts, read 7,371,945 times
Reputation: 3135
Another First in Hawaii, voted first and passed first in the country.


Hawaii first to pass medical marijuana bill

Last edited by Mikala43; 07-04-2013 at 12:37 PM..
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-04-2013, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
45,938 posts, read 30,788,887 times
Reputation: 68039
Quote:
Originally Posted by hawaiian by heart View Post
Another First in Hawaii, voted first and passed first in the country.


Hawaii first to pass medical marijuana bill
And 13 years later, still no place to buy it.

Someone said we do not have same sex marriage...... and we do.
__________________
____________________________________________
My posts as a Mod will always be in red.
Be sure to review Terms of Service: TOS
And check this out: FAQ
Moderator: Relationships Forum / Hawaii Forum / Dogs / Pets / Current Events
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-04-2013, 01:35 PM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
6,657 posts, read 7,371,945 times
Reputation: 3135
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikala43 View Post
And 13 years later, still no place to buy it.

Someone said we do not have same sex marriage...... and we do.
But thats because of the federal government, not state or local.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-04-2013, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
45,938 posts, read 30,788,887 times
Reputation: 68039
Quote:
Originally Posted by hawaiian by heart View Post
But thats because of the federal government, not state or local.
I thought Civil Unions in Hawaii became legal last year? A friend got married in Maui. Granted I'm not up on current events like I used to be, but my FB newsfee said it was legal.
__________________
____________________________________________
My posts as a Mod will always be in red.
Be sure to review Terms of Service: TOS
And check this out: FAQ
Moderator: Relationships Forum / Hawaii Forum / Dogs / Pets / Current Events
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:



Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Hawaii

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:06 AM.

© 2005-2023, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top