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Walmart, maybe? If one considers Arkansas "foreign", anyway. Walmart doesn't even use overnight banking in the states they have their stores in. Their employees don't make enough to get them off of food stamps so the jobs they have aren't that good, either.
Who owns the hotels? All that money is disappearing out of the state.
For that matter, most of the food we eat is sending money out of the state, too. We need more farms and food production in the state, but they are turning the Ewa plains into housing.
Be nice to give a big tax break to companies who keep the money in the state instead of sending it away. I think our little town (Honokaa) is thriving so much because we don't have any franchises in town. All the money spent in town pretty much stays in town, well, except for the money spent to bring the non-local goods into town, but lots of the restaurants are sourcing stuff locally. So, when they sell lunch made from locally sourced meat and vegetables, the money stays here. More farms, more folks working, more food, more sustainability. Tastes better, too.
Walmart, maybe? If one considers Arkansas "foreign", anyway. Walmart doesn't even use overnight banking in the states they have their stores in. Their employees don't make enough to get them off of food stamps so the jobs they have aren't that good, either.
Who owns the hotels? All that money is disappearing out of the state.
That argument is incredibly flawed. ANY business that has a physical presence in the State of Hawaii puts far more money into the local economy than it takes out.
When they built the Walmart - who built it in Hawaii?
Corporate state taxes, GET taxes, property taxes
Taxes paid by employees
17% taxes on a hotel room rate - stays in Hawaii.
What is locally owned anyway? I'd imagine far less than 10% of business are "locally" owned.
Hawaiian Airlines, Hawaiian Electric Company, Bank of Hawaii, First Hawaiian Bank.....think those are locally owned?????? Hint: No.
Buy the way, I'd love to see any story on Walmart specific to Hawaii about the employees on food stamps. Factually, they pay among the highest in the states they do business in, over $15/hr., not bad for unskilled positions that don't require a high school diploma.
If you really want to pick on a business that leaves no money in Hawaii - try something like Amazon - no taxes paid to Hawaii and no physical presence - just goods shipped from mainland warehouses. If you want a cause to believe in - you'd have a point if you never did online ordering.
Gotta disagree with this one, Viper. According to HNN Sunrise this morning:
Hawaii's Population for 2014 is
1) at 1,419,561 people;
2) Up 0.8% from 2013
3) 5,141 moved out-of-state;
4) 8,591 "foreigners" moved in.
My original statement was that for the past 25 years, more people have moved away from Hawaii than moved to Hawaii. For those that do move to Hawaii, they are generally not from the US.
City Data Forum says this about Hawaii migration in the past 40 years.
"Since the early 1970s, about 40,000 mainland Americans have come each year to live in Hawaii. More than half are military personnel and their dependents, on temporary residence during their term of military service.
From 1985 to 1990, Hawaii suffered a net loss from migration within the US, but experienced an overall net gain in migration due to immigration from abroad.
Between 1990 and 1998, the net loss from domestic migration was 80,000.
During the same period there was a net gain of 51,000 from international migration. In 1998, 5,465 foreign immigrants arrived in Hawaii. Between 1990 and 1998, the state's overall population increased 7.6%.
In the period 1995–2000, 125,160 people moved into the state and 201,293 moved out, for a net loss of 76,133, of whom about 44,192 moved to California."
The US Census says this about migration to Hawaii.
See page 6.
The census says from 1990 to 2000 118,000 more people moved out of Hawaii than moved to Hawaii. From 2000 to 2004, 8,213 more people moved out of Hawaii than moved to Hawaii.
Again i will have to disagree with your opinion, the same census concluded in a different study that the local population has been down the last three decades and not up. So if that is the case then who is populating our islands?
Again i will have to disagree with your opinion, the same census concluded in a different study that the local population has been down the last three decades and not up. So if that is the case then who is populating our islands?
It isn't my opinion. The links are from City Data Forum and the US Census.
In terms of who is populating the islands, mostly foreign born people, specifically Filipinos (Chinese are second). Approximately 20% of the population of Hawaii is foreign born. And of the foreign born population in Hawaii, about 45% are Filipino.
About 8% of the entire state of Hawaii residents are foreign born Filipinos.
It isn't my opinion. The links are from City Data Forum and the US Census.
In terms of who is populating the islands, mostly foreign born people, specifically Filipinos (Chinese are second). Approximately 20% of the population of Hawaii is foreign born. And of the foreign born population in Hawaii, about 45% are Filipino.
About 8% of the entire state of Hawaii residents are foreign born Filipinos.
Well that accounts for 74% of the islands. 54% local born, 20% foreigner? So the rest of the 26% is mainland then?
Possibly - that can also include Native Hawaiians born on the mainland and moved to Hawaii.
Or, people who moved away from Hawaii after college (like a lot do) - had kids - and then moved back to Hawaii.
It isn't as simplistic as you'd like to make it be.
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