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Having read the Supreme Court Appeal - I think the Superferry could've survived if they wrote the legislation correctly that allowed it to operate - it came down to less of an issue of the Environmental report than the legislation was considered "special" law rather than "general" law - also interesting, the appeal was by Sierra Club, a California organization.
Having read the Supreme Court Appeal - I think the Superferry could've survived if they wrote the legislation correctly that allowed it to operate - it came down to less of an issue of the Environmental report than the legislation was considered "special" law rather than "general" law - also interesting, the appeal was by Sierra Club, a California organization.
A lot of people and organizations will go where the publicity is.
How did the difference of "special" versus "general" law impact things? I've never read the Appeal.
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I guess thats kinda the curse of hawaii government politics, they just can't manage the big projects. Remember Aloha stadium? Now 30+ years old. Theres a design flaw in the materal used and foundations, now the government may have to demolish it or come up with almost $99 million to be completely restore the stadium and an additional $115 million for ongoing maintenance and refurbishment over the next 20 years to extend its useful life plus anyone remember how many delays in building happened? There are other current and past projects that just says it all. Anyway another topic.
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Again, asking as an outsider with limited exposure and familiarity, how does freight, as opposed to passengers, get from one island to another -- -especially the smaller, outlying islands?
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By barge.
Thanks! Can you provide any detailed info on this? -- possibly a link to the carriers engaged in the trade? Just to satisfy an old Logistics major's curiosity.
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So another words that the Department of Transporation erred in not requiring the Superferry to first conduct an environmental impact statement before starting service. Heeding the high court’s instruction, a lower court ordered the Superferry to suspend service until it finished the environmental review. Gov Lingle responded by calling a special session of the Legislature in October 2007 in which state lawmakers passed a law to circumvent the court’s ruling and let the Superferry run while completing the study. Environmental groups appealed to the Supreme Court, which agreed in March 2009 that the law passed by the state legislation and the Gov was unconstitutional.
Thanks! Can you provide any detailed info on this? -- possibly a link to the carriers engaged in the trade? Just to satisfy an old Logistics major's curiosity.
As Mikala mentioned, Young Brothers is the inter-island barge service. I think they are the only one, although for awhile there was another option. However, the other folks didn't want to service the non-profitable islands so they are gone now, I think.
It's pretty reasonable to ship inter-island via barge, I don't see why it wouldn't be economical to ship folks as well as boxes and crates. Not sure about how or if you'd crew the barges. Guess if you're putting passengers on them, you'd need some sort of crew. They occasionally either lose the whole barge or lose containers off the barge, so they may not be passenger friendly, but I don't know enough to know.
There used to be a big sailboat that sailed as a cargo ship between a lot of the smaller islands, there doesn't seem to even be the option of inter-island sailboats. Although that would take awhile.
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