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Old 07-27-2015, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Old 07-27-2015, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Honolulu
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People can just move closer to their place of employment, activities of interest, school or wherever they frequent most. Traffic is worse for those that make bad decisions.
You've never been to Oahu have you?
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Old 07-27-2015, 04:44 PM
 
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You've never been to Oahu have you?
I've been living here my entire life. Traffic is a lot worse for people that don't know how to plan their lives appropriately. They choose to live in locations that require (generally for work) long drives on congested roadways at peak rush hour. If you're OK making that sacrifice - lots of time sitting in traffic to get that bigger house, privacy, yard, lower density living, cheaper rent/mortgage etc - don't complain about it. Nobody is forcing anyone to live anywhere.

It's hilarious how people incessantly complain about traffic yet do nothing themselves to address their own personal situation. They expect the government and everyone else to accommodate them so they can whisk around from place to place unencumbered by other vehicles.

The real pain is going to come once rail is built. Because not only is traffic going to get a lot worse with all the new TOD housing that's coming with rail, it's going to get a heck lot more expensive to drive a car in general.
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Old 07-27-2015, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Honolulu
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I've been living here my entire life. Traffic is a lot worse for people that don't know how to plan their lives appropriately. They choose to live in locations that require (generally for work) long drives on congested roadways at peak rush hour. If you're OK making that sacrifice - lots of time sitting in traffic to get that bigger house, privacy, yard, lower density living, cheaper rent/mortgage etc - don't complain about it. Nobody is forcing anyone to live anywhere.

It's hilarious how people incessantly complain about traffic yet do nothing themselves to address their own personal situation. They expect the government and everyone else to accommodate them so they can whisk around from place to place unencumbered by other vehicles.

The real pain is going to come once rail is built. Because not only is traffic going to get a lot worse with all the new TOD housing that's coming with rail, it's going to get a heck lot more expensive to drive a car in general.
Look at what rent costs close to downtown, where most jobs are. Normal working people cannot afford those rents.

I work in Pearl City and I currently live here too. But I rent a tiny room that reaches 100F some days, and typically hits 95F. I don't consider that liveable for a human being. Living close to work is not possible when there are no decent rentals available.
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Old 07-27-2015, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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Look at what rent costs close to downtown, where most jobs are. Normal working people cannot afford those rents.

I work in Pearl City and I currently live here too. But I rent a tiny room that reaches 100F some days, and typically hits 95F. I don't consider that liveable for a human being. Living close to work is not possible when there are no decent rentals available.
You didn't happen to live in Maui before, did you?

I have to disagree that "normal working people cannot afford those rents" - it isn't like the rental units near downtown are sitting empty because people can't afford them - on the contrary, rent keeps increasing which reflects high demand in the market. If people couldn't afford them - the rent would go down. Now, I could agree "no decent rentals are available", mainly because they are already rented.
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Old 07-27-2015, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Portland OR / Honolulu HI
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Hello,

This is my first time posting on this site so it would be great if someone who is willing to do so could help me out. I recently graduated from college, and I have been looking to move out of state. I currently live in Colorado, but I would like to move to Hawaii or Oregon. At the same time, I have done research on both places and it seems like everywhere whether it is Hawaii or Oregon is becoming more expensive. I am currently unemployed and looking for a job which I have been looking for this summer. I have looked a lot in Hawaii and a little bit in Oregon. I also have some money saved, but I need more money so I can get by on my own. Anyway, my question is what is the best place in Hawaii or Oregon for a young, recently graduated person could afford to live? Also, if someone is from either Hawaii or Oregon what is a good place I could apply to so I can get on my feet before I jump into a career?

Thank you.

-Young Individual Needing a Change of Scenery

P.S.

I have applied/emailed many places in Hawaii since Hawaii is my first choice, and Oregon is my second choice. The places I have applied to are hotels/resorts, water sport companies, and other places that I cannot think of at the moment. Okay. Thank you.
Having spent a lot of time in both Oregon and Hawaii, I'd recommend Portland, Oregon for your situation. While Hawaii is beautiful and the weather and beaches are beyond compare, it will cost you a lot to live there. you will likely find basic living expenses take all your paycheck or more.

Portland has a much more vibrant restaurant scene, music scene and varied entertainment scene. Your living costs can be much lower in Portland and you will be more able to live near a hip neighborhood and have some disposable cash to spend on things you enjoy. However, it's also more likely to feel like Colorado.

I love Portland and I love Honolulu. But on a budget, Portland wins easily in my mind.
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Old 07-28-2015, 12:10 AM
 
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Look at what rent costs close to downtown, where most jobs are. Normal working people cannot afford those rents.

I work in Pearl City and I currently live here too. But I rent a tiny room that reaches 100F some days, and typically hits 95F. I don't consider that liveable for a human being. Living close to work is not possible when there are no decent rentals available.
There are tens of thousands of normal working people living close to downtown. Yes rent is more but they save on commuting costs. The savings can be substantial. Sometimes even more than the diffence in rent.
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Old 07-28-2015, 01:10 AM
 
Location: Aiea, Hawaii
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The best way to see Oahu is in the military! You'll get a very generous BAH to cover your rent. In fact that seems to be the main factor in 1 bedroom and studio apartment high prices. Landlords count on servicemen with a lot of money to spend on rent.
Yes! This was how i was able to come to Oahu.
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Old 07-28-2015, 05:45 PM
 
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Note to the OP - It all depends on what sort of football team you want to root for- Univ Hawaii is a good second tier team, The Ducks are first tier. But if you really want to root for the best team in the land, Columbus OHIO (Go Bucks!) is the best place to be.
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Old 07-29-2015, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Waikiki
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I've been living here my entire life. Traffic is a lot worse for people that don't know how to plan their lives appropriately. They choose to live in locations that require (generally for work) long drives on congested roadways at peak rush hour. If you're OK making that sacrifice - lots of time sitting in traffic to get that bigger house, privacy, yard, lower density living, cheaper rent/mortgage etc - don't complain about it. Nobody is forcing anyone to live anywhere.

It's hilarious how people incessantly complain about traffic yet do nothing themselves to address their own personal situation. They expect the government and everyone else to accommodate them so they can whisk around from place to place unencumbered by other vehicles.

The real pain is going to come once rail is built. Because not only is traffic going to get a lot worse with all the new TOD housing that's coming with rail, it's going to get a heck lot more expensive to drive a car in general.

You have hit this thing right on the head! People choose to go to Hawaii then complain! Regarding moving to Hawaii or Oregon....Hawaii is a lot riskier move...further away, more expensive, less opportunity unless you have a very specific skill / education. And why Hawaii anyway...is it lifestyle, is it to get away and start a new, is it just nice to do? If you want to start your life after graduation...start it on a solid foundation...don't lose focus or waste your time.
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