News, Hawaii Bill Would Raise Legal Smoking Age by ... Well, a Lot (costs, health care)

[neutrino78x]

I'm so glad that smoking on submarines was restricted to certain areas when I was in the Navy. Since I did not smoke and 90% of the rest of the Navy did.

I heard that after I got out (I got out 2003), they banned all smoking underway on submarines. But like I said...90% are smokers. They are going to be quite frustrated. :-O

They might turn to chewing tobacco. One of my fellow sonar techs used to come into sonar at the beginning of the watch, sit next to me and say, "so, [my last name], would you like a cigarette?" and I would say "[expletive] no, [his last name], I don't smoke, shipmate." And he would say, "ok, how about some smokeless tobacco?" And then he would take out his little plastic bottle and spit a wad of chewing tobacco in it.

Luckily, sonar was not the place people were allowed to smoke. That would be a small area inside of Machinery 1 (near the diesel engine...our primary propulsion comes from the nuclear reactor but we have a diesel as backup and can also run on a battery, albeit very slowly).

I grew up in Silicon Valley, but I have been to Pearl Harbor a few times on the USS Florida SSBN-728. Homeport was Bangor Naval Submarine Base, across Puget Sound from Seattle in the state of Washington.

Hawaii is way too hot for me! :-O

[whtviper1]

Originally Posted by neutrino78x

I'm so glad that smoking on submarines was restricted to certain areas when I was in the Navy. Since I did not smoke and 90% of the rest of the Navy did.

I heard that after I got out (I got out 2003), they banned all smoking underway on submarines. But like I said...90% are smokers.

No, that would be false. It is roughly 25%

[Open-D]

Originally Posted by whtviper1

No, that would be false. It is roughly 25%

It may be now, but when I was in, it was much higher, and they made life miserable for everyone else.

[prospectheightsresident]

Originally Posted by Open-D

Black markets fund the criminal element, the organized criminal element. They would own you in short order. Their power would be overwhelming.

Yes, I'm feeding an old thread, but I'll still play.

Imagine the violence that would come from the criminal element enforcing their power and authority over the black market.

Sometimes such blowback is worthwhile to prevent serious societal damage otherwise, but sometimes it's not IMO.

[trinity1111]

Haven't heard from Open-D in quite a while....last post was in 2020...hope he/she is ok and maybe just laying low.....

[sidneyinmyeyes34]

that's lame... its a nanny state presiding all over again... People should do what they please ( unless it infringes on others/second hand smoke) and not have government intervention telling them what to do . There has been a huge drop in smokers culturally anyway so why do they have do this?

[Howest2008]

Originally Posted by sidneyinmyeyes34

that's lame... its a nanny state presiding all over again... People should do what they please ( unless it infringes on others/second hand smoke) and not have government intervention telling them what to do . There has been a huge drop in smokers culturally anyway so why do they have do this?

2nd hand smoke killed my Mother/Father.

[Futuremauian]

Originally Posted by neutrino78x

I'm so glad that smoking on submarines was restricted to certain areas when I was in the Navy.

Originally Posted by sidneyinmyeyes34

2nd hand smoke is real problem. just make them smoke outside

Please be considerate of others and step outside the submarine to smoke!

[sidneyinmyeyes34]

haha that's funny

[Dthraco]

I was on a fast attack sub in the mid 90’s, nobody smoked inside. It was bad enough we breathed recycled farts all day. Making the oxygen scrubbers fight cigarette smoke too, bit skeptical. Fire of any kind inside a sub is an alarming concept.

Perhaps neutrino78x was on a Boomer that had a CO that was a smoker?