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Old 07-14-2020, 01:01 AM
 
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Halekalani to close for 1 year. Figure they might as well renovate since no end in sight when tourism will come back in decent numbers.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/0...re-until-mid-/
The improvements are scheduled to begin as soon as the company obtains the necessary city permits and will take as long as 11 months to complete.



Lol.... they may end up waiting 6 months to 1 year for the permits

 
Old 07-14-2020, 01:10 AM
 
Location: Kahala
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The improvements are scheduled to begin as soon as the company obtains the necessary city permits and will take as long as 11 months to complete.



Lol.... they may end up waiting 6 months to 1 year for the permits
Anyone who has been to the Halekalani in the past year knows they don't need to renovate. The real message is they don't expect to make money for at least a year so closing down makes sense - definitely a blow to the State in terms of tax revenue.
 
Old 07-14-2020, 11:24 AM
 
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Anyone who has been to the Halekalani in the past year knows they don't need to renovate. The real message is they don't expect to make money for at least a year so closing down makes sense - definitely a blow to the State in terms of tax revenue.
True story, good point. I guess the quarantine not being lifted at all was the final blow. A LOT of businesses were preparing for the 8/1 date and got screwed by the governor.
 
Old 07-14-2020, 07:23 PM
 
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True story, good point. I guess the quarantine not being lifted at all was the final blow. A LOT of businesses were preparing for the 8/1 date and got screwed by the governor.
A poll was taken and 8 of 10 residents don’t want the state to open back up to tourists. Not sure how many of these people who were polled owned businesses, but seems according to the poll, people aren’t overly concerned with continuing the quarantine for visitors.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.haw...outputType=amp
 
Old 07-14-2020, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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A poll was taken and 8 of 10 residents don’t want the state to open back up to tourists. Not sure how many of these people who were polled owned businesses, but seems according to the poll, people aren’t overly concerned with continuing the quarantine for visitors.
Let’s take the same poll when CARES/Unemployment/PPP/Rent moratoriums end
 
Old 07-14-2020, 08:42 PM
 
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Let’s take the same poll when CARES/Unemployment/PPP/Rent moratoriums end
That is certainly going to change the dynamics if nothing else done to provide further support. I suspect more federal money is coming, probably less generous.

i think just opening up does not solve the economic problem if we don't get the pandemic under control.

Who is really going on a vacation to Hawaii right now anyway? I just don't see how even if we opened up with minimal safeguards that tourists would be flocking here in any kind of meaningful numbers. Maybe I am wrong about that.
 
Old 07-14-2020, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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Who is really going on a vacation to Hawaii right now anyway? I just don't see how even if we opened up with minimal safeguards that tourists would be flocking here in any kind of meaningful numbers. Maybe I am wrong about that.
Plenty of people vacationing in Florida at the moment.

We don't need a lot of tourists to provide a lifeline to businesses.
 
Old 07-14-2020, 09:36 PM
 
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Let’s take the same poll when CARES/Unemployment/PPP/Rent moratoriums end
Agreed
 
Old 07-15-2020, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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Here is today's data regarding tourists flying into Alaska recently, for what's it's worth.

"..Tourism, visitors and airport testing: This week saw 18,056 travelers screened at airports entering Alaska, and 6,170 (34%) opted to be tested on entry. The other options available to them were a 14 day quarantine (selected by 2,689 passengers, 15%) or providing proof of another test performed within 72 hours of landing in Alaska, which 8,880 passengers did (49%). The remaining 317 (2%) provided proof of having recovered from COVID-19, were essential workers following a community and workplace protection plan or were Alaskans who had been gone for fewer than 24 hours. 57 new cases were discovered through airport arrival testing, for a test positivity rate of 0.9%.

Of the 35 cases in nonresidents this week, 5 were linked with tourism or visiting, including 2 in Anchorage, 1 in the Fairbanks North Star Borough, and 1 in the Kenai Peninsula Borough..."
 
Old 07-15-2020, 04:40 PM
 
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Here is today's data regarding tourists flying into Alaska recently, for what's it's worth.

"..Tourism, visitors and airport testing: This week saw 18,056 travelers screened at airports entering Alaska, and 6,170 (34%) opted to be tested on entry. The other options available to them were a 14 day quarantine (selected by 2,689 passengers, 15%) or providing proof of another test performed within 72 hours of landing in Alaska, which 8,880 passengers did (49%). The remaining 317 (2%) provided proof of having recovered from COVID-19, were essential workers following a community and workplace protection plan or were Alaskans who had been gone for fewer than 24 hours. 57 new cases were discovered through airport arrival testing, for a test positivity rate of 0.9%.

Of the 35 cases in nonresidents this week, 5 were linked with tourism or visiting, including 2 in Anchorage, 1 in the Fairbanks North Star Borough, and 1 in the Kenai Peninsula Borough..."
Would you happen to know how that 18k number compares to a typical week this time of year for Alaska?

I am curious if people are really flying for vacations at this time.
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