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Old 04-03-2021, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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I would love to visit Hawaii but not live their plus I could not afford it.
It's good that you can see this. Many people apparently think they can move here and live on wild fruit and will somehow "get by". It never seems to work out that way.

Hope you are able to visit some time.
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Old 04-03-2021, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Moku Nui, Hawaii
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No samba dances here. Hawaii is a US location unique in its scenery, activities and culture with good weather that's relatively easy to access, navigate, is comfortable and modern-ish. On the flipside, plenty locals I know, if they can afford it, don't really go to outer islands but go places like Japan, or US mainland cities, vegas, skiing, etc. as that's unique and exotic to them.

It isn't so much that it's unique and exotic as that it's not that much more expensive to visit the other places. If we visit another island, we still have to rent a car and stay in hotels. We can't drive our own cars there and there aren't any motels so we only have the higher hotel options. Which means, other than the additional airfare to get to somewhere further away, the costs are pretty much the same whether we visit Japan or another island. There used to be a real budget airline that would let us fly to Japan for about the same as a neighbor island, although they went out of business.
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Old 04-03-2021, 04:34 PM
 
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It isn't so much that it's unique and exotic as that it's not that much more expensive to visit the other places. If we visit another island, we still have to rent a car and stay in hotels. We can't drive our own cars there and there aren't any motels so we only have the higher hotel options. Which means, other than the additional airfare to get to somewhere further away, the costs are pretty much the same whether we visit Japan or another island. There used to be a real budget airline that would let us fly to Japan for about the same as a neighbor island, although they went out of business.
Why aren't there any motels here?
Is there a historical reason for that, or is it just that the economics of them don't work here?
It seems like other high cost areas still have reasonably priced motel chains.
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Old 04-03-2021, 05:22 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Why aren't there any motels here?
Is there a historical reason for that, or is it just that the economics of them don't work here?
It seems like other high cost areas still have reasonably priced motel chains.
You answered your own question (bolded). ‘Reasonably priced’ would just attract even more tourism, of lower spending. Hawaii is already overwhelmed.
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Old 04-03-2021, 05:33 PM
 
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You answered your own question (bolded). ‘Reasonably priced’ would just attract even more tourism, of lower spending. Hawaii is already overwhelmed.

I would not think that the owners of these hotel chains care much about the level of tourism, or the total dollars spent. If it were profitable, I would have expected them to open some here.

Are there other barriers that prevent them from doing so? Hard to imagine it is because they are worried that Hawaii has too much tourism. If anything, that would seem like an incentive to them.


I am not saying i want more low end hotels here, just curious why they don't already exist.
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Old 04-03-2021, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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I would not think that the owners of these hotel chains care much about the level of tourism, or the total dollars spent. If it were profitable, I would have expected them to open some here.

Are there other barriers that prevent them from doing so? Hard to imagine it is because they are worried that Hawaii has too much tourism. If anything, that would seem like an incentive to them.


I am not saying i want more low end hotels here, just curious why they don't already exist.
Oceanfront land is too expensive to support low-rise motels and tourists don't come here to stay inland. They want to be as close as possible to the ocean. Hence, motels aren't as cost-effective.

Maui has some old ones in Kahului. At least one near the college has been converted to student housing. There is also one or two in Kihei.

Courtyard by Marriott built a new motel near the airport a few years ago. I assume it is mostly used by flight crews or people with late arrivals or early morning flights. It seems unlikely that tourists would spend what it costs to get here only to buy a room overlooking Costco's gas station.
On the plus side, it has a food truck court on the property.

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Old 04-03-2021, 06:13 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Oceanfront land is too expensive to support low-rise motels and tourists don't come here to stay inland. They want to be as close as possible to the ocean. Hence, motels aren't as cost-effective.

Maui has some old ones in Kahului. At least one near the college has been converted to student housing. There is also one or two in Kihei.

Courtyard by Marriott built a new motel near the airport a few years ago. I assume it is mostly used by flight crews or people with late arrivals or early morning flights. It seems unlikely that tourists would spend what it costs to get here only to buy a room overlooking Costco's gas station.
On the plus side, it has a food truck court on the property.
You beat me to it ... and smaller, low cost operators won’t get any development support from government sources, nor any networked by government relationships.
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Old 04-03-2021, 06:36 PM
 
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Did anyone mention the exotic babes?
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Old 04-10-2021, 06:53 PM
 
Location: USA
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Even people from Florida who are surrounded by beaches acknowledge that Hawaii is special. The beauty is hard to describe - it's ethereal.
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Old 05-07-2022, 06:31 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Hello everyone,
Referring to Hawaii, people immediately think of the beaches, extremely hot samba dances. Hawaii is a place that anyone should go once in a lifetime if given the chance. I don't know why Hawaii is such a good place to travel? Can you tell me?
Thanks everyone.
World-class beaches, pristine rainforests, and raging volcanoes are just a few of the attractions that make Hawaii a popular tourist destination. Every Hawaiian island has its own allure, making this state full of adventure and luxury no matter which way you turn.
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