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Old 12-25-2019, 09:01 AM
 
Location: 89052 & 75206
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My son (44) his wife (43) and their teenager (15) are no longer carrying medical insurance. They are self employed and run a retail shop.

He dropped their high deductible plan, bought on the marketplace, last summer because the monthly premium was $1800 and they couldn’t afford that plus their other household expenses. I don’t know my son’s income, but I am guessing their total family income is about $90K/annual. Last year my DIL and son each had injuries (she deep cut a finger, he fell down some stairs) that required ER visits and the bills came out to almost $4k each — and their high deductible plan didn’t cover either event. At that point they determined at their ages they would drop coverage.

I am so worried about this. $1800/mo! I certainly understand, with all the other expenses of life that amount is beyond their means. But they need to get insurance immediately.

Any suggestions?
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Old 12-25-2019, 09:08 AM
 
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They can possibly get a group plan since they are self employed.
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Old 12-25-2019, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Southern Illinois
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I’m guessing that the high cost of health insurance is the biggest barrier to entry into entrepreneurship. I wish them well but I know it’s scary.
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Old 12-25-2019, 11:49 AM
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Location: Concord, CA
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As long as they don't mind losing everything and going bankrupt in case of a major medical problem, they can go ahead and drop the insurance.

Just hope they don't expect you to bail them out.

I returned to work full time at 61 in order to get group health insurance. I wasn't willing to risk all that I owned.

Or, perhaps they could move to Canada.
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Old 12-25-2019, 01:25 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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Not all forms of gambling are illegal.
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Old 12-25-2019, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Health sharing ministries. In today's world, if I weren't on Medicare and had no employer coverage, that's the route I would take. Many on this forum have done that.

//www.city-data.com/forum/healt...althshare.html

//www.city-data.com/forum/healt...inistries.html

Premiums are affordable, deductibles (sharing) are low. They do screen for health. If your son's family has no preexisting conditions, cost-sharing ministries are a better option that no insurance at all.
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Old 12-25-2019, 01:44 PM
 
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There's no reason a few x-rays and stitches should cost $4k. They need to go to urgent care facilities not emergency rooms. I'd drop an $1800/mo plan that didn't cover my needs as well. That will buy you a lot of health care.
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Old 12-25-2019, 02:22 PM
 
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They should buy a catastrophic plan. That’s much cheaper.
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Old 12-25-2019, 02:46 PM
 
Location: 89052 & 75206
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They should buy a catastrophic plan. That’s much cheaper.
Can you recommend one?
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Old 12-25-2019, 03:35 PM
 
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Are they putting money away each month toward medical bills? I mean, at $1800 a month, if they socked it away, those savings would have covered one of those $4k ER visits within less than 3 months. Now, anything huge is another story... But you don't say if they have another plan, or simply planned to wing it.


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They should buy a catastrophic plan. That’s much cheaper.
I thought the high-deductible plans *were* intended to be catastrophic?
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