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Old 08-05-2010, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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Yes....as a matter of fact it does make it right....and seeing as female gynecologists are a relatively recent phenomenon, men have been doing these exams for a loooooong time.

Have you ever had a pelvic exam???

I'm a male and during my training I did pelvic exams on women.....there is NOTHING sexy about a speculum....either for the recipient or the operator...

No one should assume a male gynecologist is "asexual"...one should assume there is very little connection between what goes on in an exam room and a bedroom.
And to bring this to a higher level - I have a female primary care doc (my husband goes to her as well). She does routine pelvic exams and breast exams on me. And I am 99% sure she's gay (and I have good "gaydar"). She's an excellent internist IMO - which is why she's our primary care doc. So should I go out on the town and try to find a woman primary care doc who I am pretty sure is straight (although you can never be 100% sure)? When we lived in Miami - we had a dermatologist (he was also a friend) who was definitely a gay guy. So should only I have gone to him - and not my husband . When I'm sick - I just want to get well. With the hekp of the best doctors I can find. That's it. I don't have the time to deal with any irrelevant nonsense. Robyn
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Old 08-05-2010, 06:33 PM
 
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These days most doctors --- male or female --- are likely to have a chaperon present during exams. This is not to protect the patient from the doctor, but to protect the doctor form the patient.
So true. I was/am so concerned when my son in law went into teaching. I have zero concern about the boy - he is a wonderful young man whom I have seen around young girls (he and my daughter have two daughters) and older girls and don't have a concern at all about his behavior or "sexual urges".

I am so concerned somebody is going to come up with some story some day as he is somewhat strict and authoritative (but you need some of that too - he is not sarcastic or mean, but he expects his kids to behave and doesnt feel a need to be 'one of the kids') and I could see someone wanting to get even with him - and one smart ass kid could ruin his life.

Doctors must face this every day. Doctors have money and that makes them real good targets.
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Old 08-05-2010, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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I'd also like to know the level of education of Modest Woman?
Yes, I would like to know that as well.
In her opening statement, she said she was quite young when she began to form this "theory" of hers, and questioned her mother on it.
How young?
4?
12?
18?
I suspect that if OP is not a troll, then there are some deep, underlying issues at play here.
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Old 08-05-2010, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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So true. I was/am so concerned when my son in law went into teaching. I have zero concern about the boy - he is a wonderful young man whom I have seen around young girls (he and my daughter have two daughters) and older girls and don't have a concern at all about his behavior or "sexual urges".

I am so concerned somebody is going to come up with some story some day as he is somewhat strict and authoritative (but you need some of that too - he is not sarcastic or mean, but he expects his kids to behave and doesnt feel a need to be 'one of the kids') and I could see someone wanting to get even with him - and one smart ass kid could ruin his life.

Doctors must face this every day. Doctors have money and that makes them real good targets.
It is not only male teachers that have to be concerned. I think it is a shame that a teacher cannot give a child a hug these days without being worried that he --- or she --- will be accused of inappropriate behavior. It just about has gotten to the point that any teacher would be afraid to be alone with any student.
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Old 08-05-2010, 06:51 PM
 
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It is not only male teachers that have to be concerned. I think it is a shame that a teacher cannot give a child a hug these days without being worried that he --- or she --- will be accused of inappropriate behavior. It just about has gotten to the point that any teacher would be afraid to be alone with any student.
And I think the internet has played a role in some of this. I mean things like this are probably not happening any more than they ever did but an event in a small town in Iowa has the entire nation focused on it when before we just saw what went on around us. People are SCARED anymore! SCARED of everything.
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Old 08-05-2010, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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So true. I was/am so concerned when my son in law went into teaching. I have zero concern about the boy - he is a wonderful young man whom I have seen around young girls (he and my daughter have two daughters) and older girls and don't have a concern at all about his behavior or "sexual urges".

I am so concerned somebody is going to come up with some story some day as he is somewhat strict and authoritative (but you need some of that too - he is not sarcastic or mean, but he expects his kids to behave and doesnt feel a need to be 'one of the kids') and I could see someone wanting to get even with him - and one smart ass kid could ruin his life.

Doctors must face this every day. Doctors have money and that makes them real good targets.
Other people face it as well. My husband and I - both retired lawyers - would be excellent tutors for kids who need help in things like high school math. But perhaps 5-10 years ago - our homeowners' insurance stopped covering any sexual harassment claims. We have a fair amount of money - and would be easy targets for anyone who's willing to lie (more people than you think - and it wouldn't be only girls filing false complaints - it might be guys too). So we don't lift a hand to help where help is needed. Shame on our society for getting us to this sorry state of affairs. Robyn
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Old 08-05-2010, 07:19 PM
 
Location: FLG/PHX/MKE
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I could care less. I have a female primary care provider, and a female gastroenterologist. I could really care less about the gender difference... they've seen it all. Many times.

I do, however, understand that some people want to maintain a gender boundary. I think it's important for patients and providers to consider.
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Old 08-05-2010, 07:20 PM
 
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As a member of a volunteer search and rescue team, our single biggest team expense is liability insurance!
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Old 08-06-2010, 01:05 AM
 
Location: California
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The internet has shown the world that there are some might strange people and ideas. And I'm not talking about the vajazzling.
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Old 08-06-2010, 04:15 AM
 
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While I do think some of this thread is ridiculous, there is a point here, too. Patients, especially those in non-emergency settings, do deserve dignity. I object to the way they go about exams, barely half-closing the door, someone coming in while an exam is going on, gigling students taking notes, all that does make a patient uncomfortable and not able to be as free with their discussion of their symptoms.

I had a transvaginal US done as part of a pregnancy test, next thing I knew 20 medical students, all with their clipboards, filed into the room, after I was "positioned" I asked the nurse to take the US wand out. sat up and asked why all the students. The stock answer, well, they have to learn somehow. I pointed out they wouldn't learn anything watching me draped in a humilating position while watching a tv screen. I suggested a better way to learn would be for the students to observe the machine when not in use, observe some us films without the patient present, and, if they really felt there was something to be gained seeing the woman laying under the sheets with that thing stuck ih her have one of the female medical students or nurses volunteer to play "dummy" Sorry, I didn't consider it part of my role as a patient to de a display model. It cleared the room!
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