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Old 07-27-2017, 10:41 AM
 
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Biker53:
So it is someone else's fault that men choose to remain silent?
It is their choice and personally I do not know one man who would not or has not spoken up in regards to their wishes during medical procedures and they choose to speak up for their comfort and wishes instead of remaining silent.
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Old 07-27-2017, 11:22 AM
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Location: Southern California
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Before anyone gets upset by my not being receptive to young female CNA's being involved in my intimate care, please ask yourself if you'd be OK with the opposite, a female patient being bathed or otherwise having intimate care by a teenage male CNA.
I'd say, get over it. It's tough enough to get help who will do the grunt work. The experience in the 3 rehabs I had been in is, MANY CNA's are from other countries in the world. The U.S. people don't want to dirty their hands more than they have to.
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Old 07-27-2017, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Back and Beyond
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Medical professionals have seen it all. They really don't care what your private areas look like. They've seen much worse. It's just a job to them. You should have no shame of your naked body when in a medical setting.
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Old 07-27-2017, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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When a woman goes for her annual mammogram, what are the chances, she will have to deal with a male mammographer doing the x-ray?

Zero to none.

A urologist wants his male patient to get a scrotal ultrasound. The patient for his own reasons, wants the test done by a male sonographer not a female.

What do you think the chances are he will get his request for a male granted?

Zero to one tenth of one percent chance.
I know this is old...but...perhaps if we want more men to do this type of work we should pay EVERYONE better. Most fields dominated by women pay less than fields requiring similar levels of training that are dominated by men. So gentlemen, if you want a male technician - tell your hospital about it make them adjust their pay scales and we'll see if the situation improves for you.
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Old 07-27-2017, 04:33 PM
 
Location: God's Country
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My primary source 2009-15 was a female PA who gave me the full physical every two years, including genital and rectal.


My late wife 's ob-gyn MD is male.


Both highly professional.
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Old 07-27-2017, 06:29 PM
 
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jaminhealth, I have a hard time accepting that as a male I am supposed to just get over my expectation of receiving the same level of respectful care that women routinely receive when it comes to intimate matters. Hospitals never hire male mammographers. Hospitals rarely hire male L&D nursing & tech staff. Hospitals rarely hire male sonographers. Physicians would never ever bring a male chaperone or a male scribe in the room for a woman's intimate procedure.

In addition to a vasectomy (with female nurse) and testicular ultrasound (with female sonographer), I have had a couple dozen cystoscopies and a year's worth of bladder cancer treatments administered via the penis. All the cystoscopy prep and all of the treatments were done by female nurses. Not once in 12 years in that large urology practice was there ever a male nurse or tech.

If a man goes to a male dermatologist for a full skin exam, from amongst his 100% female staff a woman will be there to assist and take notes. If a man needs a testicular ultrasound, he'd have to look far and wide to find a male sonographer. If a male needs a urodynamic test, again he'll most likely have two women cathing him on both ends and watching him pee.

Do you suggest that women also get over it and start accepting male mammographers, sonographers, L&D nursing staff etc? It would seem that is the way to go if we really believe medicine is gender neutral. Right now it seems to be a one way street.
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Old 07-27-2017, 06:35 PM
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jaminhealth, I have a hard time accepting that as a male I am supposed to just get over my expectation of receiving the same level of respectful care that women routinely receive when it comes to intimate matters. Hospitals never hire male mammographers. Hospitals rarely hire male L&D nursing & tech staff. Hospitals rarely hire male sonographers. Physicians would never ever bring a male chaperone or a male scribe in the room for a woman's intimate procedure.

In addition to a vasectomy (with female nurse) and testicular ultrasound (with female sonographer), I have had a couple dozen cystoscopies and a year's worth of bladder cancer treatments administered via the penis. All the cystoscopy prep and all of the treatments were done by female nurses. Not once in 12 years in that large urology practice was there ever a male nurse or tech.

If a man goes to a male dermatologist for a full skin exam, from amongst his 100% female staff a woman will be there to assist and take notes. If a man needs a testicular ultrasound, he'd have to look far and wide to find a male sonographer. If a male needs a urodynamic test, again he'll most likely have two women cathing him on both ends and watching him pee.

Do you suggest that women also get over it and start accepting male mammographers, sonographers, L&D nursing staff etc? It would seem that is the way to go if we really believe medicine is gender neutral. Right now it seems to be a one way street.
So many gave their opinions to you and as some said the "medical world has seen everything"...I said that about too after spending almost 5 months in rehabs...

If you or anyone wants medical care, then we have to get over who does it. I don't get mamms so I don't worry about that one. Thanks.

For me, I prefer a female MD and that's what I have in my integrative MD. Other stuff in my life has not been that invasive. Sounds like you've had your share.
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Old 07-27-2017, 06:37 PM
 
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I know this is old...but...perhaps if we want more men to do this type of work we should pay EVERYONE better. Most fields dominated by women pay less than fields requiring similar levels of training that are dominated by men. So gentlemen, if you want a male technician - tell your hospital about it make them adjust their pay scales and we'll see if the situation improves for you.
That's an interesting thought, but I wonder how true that is. Nurses at the local hospital in my county earn about $75K which puts them in about the 90th percentile income-wise around here. Few people earn as much as they do. Certainly men working in blue collar jobs or the trades don't earn $75K. The median household income is $49K in this county. I think the relative lack of men entering nursing is more cultural.
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Old 07-27-2017, 06:52 PM
 
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So many gave their opinions to you and as some said the "medical world has seen everything"...I said that about too after spending almost 5 months in rehabs...

If you or anyone wants medical care, then we have to get over who does it. I don't get mamms so I don't worry about that one. Thanks.

For me, I prefer a female MD and that's what I have in my integrative MD. Other stuff in my life has not been that invasive. Sounds like you've had your share.
Yes they have seen it all and they are comfortable with patient intimate exposure, and yes I have had my share. Quite honestly with 2 notable exceptions amongst the several dozen I've had these past 12 years, all of it was done very professionally and in a manner that did not needlessly embarrass me. I was self conscious but I was not embarrassed. The two exceptions were pretty bad.

I just wish men were afforded the same options that women routinely receive. Some men such as yourself are more comfortable with female caregivers, and that's OK. Some men don't care and so it doesn't matter to them. That's OK too. Others of us would appreciate having a choice, and when we speak up towards that end, it would be nice to have it acknowledged and spoken to rather than get a bullying phrase intended to shut down the discussion.
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Old 07-27-2017, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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I know this is old...but...perhaps if we want more men to do this type of work we should pay EVERYONE better. Most fields dominated by women pay less than fields requiring similar levels of training that are dominated by men. So gentlemen, if you want a male technician - tell your hospital about it make them adjust their pay scales and we'll see if the situation improves for you.
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That's an interesting thought, but I wonder how true that is. Nurses at the local hospital in my county earn about $75K which puts them in about the 90th percentile income-wise around here. Few people earn as much as they do. Certainly men working in blue collar jobs or the trades don't earn $75K. The median household income is $49K in this county. I think the relative lack of men entering nursing is more cultural.
Nurses are NOT "blue collar" - the expectation now is to have at least a bachelor's degree and they often specialize. That's why I said "similar levels of training". Obviously technicians have less training and make less. I don't know why lab, xray, etc. technicians are considered particularly "feminine" professions unless it is due to the pay. Most jobs, if you want to attract men you have to have a good salary.
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