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Old 09-12-2010, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Greenwood Village, Colorado
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I really want to know how it works. For example my doctor prescribed benicar for me. Even with insurance it still cost me $40-50 a month. After each baby my pressure was at stroke level and he told me to give the med a couple weeks to kick in, because something about getting the levels right in my body. It seemed crazy to me!
Even after it FINALLY started to work I would get so sick and it claimed it wasnt the drug, never offered to change it at all. SO I would keep going off the med because of the horrific side effects and the cost.

Well after 4 years, I finally asked for lisinorpil. After the first dose my pressure went from high to 110/70 within 3 -4 hours. The med costs me $5 and so far no side effects.

Why would a doctor keep his patients on an expensive drugs, one that causes a patient to have negative side effects and takes a long time to kick in?

 
Old 09-12-2010, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Cartersville, GA
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Both the doctor and the drug co. would have a lot to answer for if there were any direct kickbacks. It's at all uncommon for pharmaceutical companies to provide meals to office staff as a marketing strategy, but direct kickbacks are a definite no-no.

Many drugs require a certain amount of time to start working, and even more time may been needed to allow for dose adjustments, etc. Your physician probably had a reasonable medical justifications for his decision. If you are even in doubt, just get a second opinion from another physician.
 
Old 09-13-2010, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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No direct kickbacks but there is what's called "market creation" to increase the use of this drug or that by giving the doctors boat loads of free samples to get patients hooked on this drug or that drug or a new drug.
 
Old 09-13-2010, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Mostly in my head
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Years ago, the VA hospital system stopped all drug rep lunches as a conflict of interest. We, the non-physician staff, were not happy to lose a perk.
 
Old 09-13-2010, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Cartersville, GA
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Years ago, the VA hospital system stopped all drug rep lunches as a conflict of interest. We, the non-physician staff, were not happy to lose a perk.
The FDA (or some other branch of the government) recently prohibited the drug companies from giving physicians and office staff little gifts, such as pens, note pads, and the like. The VA is being a little pro-active, but their restriction might be a preview of coming attractions. Some countries (such as France) have very extensive restrictions on what a pharmaceutical company's marketing staff can and cannot do with physicians. I have worked in a physician's office before, and currently work for a hospital. I have certainly enjoyed dining on a drug company's dime, buy I have a feeling that these things will someday be a thing of the past.
 
Old 09-13-2010, 02:51 PM
 
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There are no kickbacks direct or indirect to influence drug prescribing.
 
Old 09-13-2010, 09:09 PM
 
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LOL. Yeah, and that's why all of the pens, clocks, and all of the other misc stuff in both my gp's and psych docs offices are plastered with zoloft, lexapro and other drug advertising.
 
Old 09-13-2010, 09:10 PM
 
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and to answer the OP's question. Yes, kickbacks happen all of the time... it's either ignored or unnoticed. One of my friends has just gone into pharmacology and can attest to all of it.
 
Old 09-13-2010, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Greenwood Village, Colorado
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and to answer the OP's question. Yes, kickbacks happen all of the time... it's either ignored or unnoticed. One of my friends has just gone into pharmacology and can attest to all of it.

I believe it!
 
Old 09-13-2010, 10:45 PM
 
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and to answer the OP's question. Yes, kickbacks happen all of the time... it's either ignored or unnoticed. One of my friends has just gone into pharmacology and can attest to all of it.
Excellent!!

I've been writing prescriptions for 18 years....when can I expect my first check!

Haven't gotten one....ever...but if your "friend" in "pharmacology"( you know thats not a profession right?) can attest to it it MUST be TRUE!!!
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