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Old 03-05-2020, 05:21 PM
 
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It’s a mistake to be so high on MDs. Occupational licensing has protected physicians from competition for generations. Like all protected industries and trade groups, the medical community as a whole is rotting in its complacency.
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Old 08-06-2021, 03:02 PM
 
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You can be a DOCTOR in another country and not get credit here. You will still have to do an American residency in order to practice in the US. I tutored a woman who was a physician in her home country, but she had a toddler and two other children and there was just no way she could do an American residency. Instead she was learning English so she could apply to a PA program, because that was the easiest way for her to practice here. It is not unusual to find people here who are PAs but actually practiced medicine in another country and were either too old or busy to feel that they could do another 3-7 years of residency. Imagine you had already done that in your home and had to do that again here?



Keep in mind that the country they came from is going to have lower standards that the US.
Even a country like the UK has astonishingly low rent medical care compared to the US. I would rate the average MD in another country as at best a PA in the US.
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Old 08-06-2021, 03:03 PM
 
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It’s a mistake to be so high on MDs. Occupational licensing has protected physicians from competition for generations. Like all protected industries and trade groups, the medical community as a whole is rotting in its complacency.

There are times when protection and standards make sense, namely whenever lives are on the line and letting any random person do whatever they please is not a good idea.


I have no issue with the requirements for medical school, 8 years plus residency is a good bar to set to keep quacks out.



We don't let a self appointed engineer design a dam or a nuclear power plant either.
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Old 08-07-2021, 06:36 AM
 
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Keep in mind that the country they came from is going to have lower standards that the US.
Even a country like the UK has astonishingly low rent medical care compared to the US. I would rate the average MD in another country as at best a PA in the US.
Beg to differ: I have heard the American nurses in the hospital praising the foreign educated doctors who worked there as “brilliant”
Some countries concentrate the medical training on proper and thorough diagnostics- using all the subtle signs in patients- skin color, nails, bags under the eyes, gait, etc
US doctor out of liability fears just follow the protocols:”try this drug- if it does not help- we will get you another” or often just can not offer any help at all.
250k people in US die from medical mistakes annually:

https://hub.jhu.edu/2016/05/03/medic...ause-of-death/
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Old 08-07-2021, 06:44 AM
 
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Beg to differ: I have heard the American nurses in the hospital praising the foreign educated doctors who worked there as “brilliant”
Some countries concentrate the medical training on proper and thorough diagnostics- using all the subtle signs in patients- skin color, nails, bags under the eyes, gait, etc
US doctor out of liability fears just follow the protocols:”try this drug- if it does not help- we will get you another” or sometimes just can not offer any help at all.
250k people in US die from medical mistakes annually:

https://hub.jhu.edu/2016/05/03/medic...ause-of-death/
? Foreign educated doctors who work in the US have taken the licensing exams and gone through the residency match here in the US. We don’t see the foreign educated doctors here who can’t meet those high standards. Even in the US, you have a choice. You can choose to attend an osteopathic medical school, which has a slightly different focus than an allopathic medical school. Unfortunately they tend to be a lot more expensive.
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Old 08-07-2021, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Fort Payne Alabama
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? Foreign educated doctors who work in the US have taken the licensing exams and gone through the residency match here in the US. We don’t see the foreign educated doctors here who can’t meet those high standards. Even in the US, you have a choice. You can choose to attend an osteopathic medical school, which has a slightly different focus than an allopathic medical school. Unfortunately they tend to be a lot more expensive.
And restrictive in who they admit. Thanks to the Nurse Practitioners and foreign doctors we have here in the US, without them, thanks to the choke hold the AMA has on the medical schools, our healthcare would be far worse than it all ready is!
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Old 08-10-2021, 08:54 AM
 
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Beg to differ: I have heard the American nurses in the hospital praising the foreign educated doctors who worked there as “brilliant”
Some countries concentrate the medical training on proper and thorough diagnostics- using all the subtle signs in patients- skin color, nails, bags under the eyes, gait, etc
US doctor out of liability fears just follow the protocols:”try this drug- if it does not help- we will get you another” or often just can not offer any help at all.
250k people in US die from medical mistakes annually:

https://hub.jhu.edu/2016/05/03/medic...ause-of-death/



Yes but millions and millions die abroad from simply unsophisticated or delayed care.
Most foreign countries lack sophisticated medicine, and if anything is seriously wrong with you then you are screwed.Furthermore, the US is NOT the worst when it comes to over-prescribing, Asia is causing the AMR crisis because they dole out antibiotics like candy.
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