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Old 06-04-2018, 09:26 PM
 
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This is the first time I have seen you mention that you take RA drugs. In all the recent conversations where you told us how a healthy lifestyle does not keep your blood sugar normal (and I forget exactly what else), you didn't mention it. Maybe that mystery would be solved if you look up the side effects of the RA drugs you take.
Know what else RA drugs do?

They manage RA symptoms and slow the progression of the disease.

No mystery there.....
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Old 06-04-2018, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Middle of the ocean
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This is the first time I have seen you mention that you take RA drugs. In all the recent conversations where you told us how a healthy lifestyle does not keep your blood sugar normal (and I forget exactly what else), you didn't mention it. Maybe that mystery would be solved if you look up the side effects of the RA drugs you take.
Mentioned it on a few threads, but no, blood sugar issues are not a side effect of the biologic I take.

Not to mention I have been on it 5 years or so, and blood sugar has only been an issue for the past year.

I also have gastroparesis (ideopathic) and psoriasis, HBP, and IBS. I think that brings you up to speed.

Edit: and hypothyroid

I'm probably still forgetting something

My meds keep me a lean, mean, fighting machine.
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Old 06-05-2018, 05:22 AM
 
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The meds won't sell if they do not work.

Docs won't prescribe them, so patients do not get them, and insurance will never cover them.
It is very hard to tell if they "work" or not. The long-term benefit vs harm has not been tested, for one thing. Doctors prescribe according to the research, and the research is often funded by drug companies and is often intentionally misleading.

Statistics can be used to mislead. That is how science for profit "works."
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Old 06-05-2018, 08:09 AM
 
Location: A noncontiguous State
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Damn right it is, and the collective payment for them is a big drain on our health care system.
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Old 06-05-2018, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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I know you believe the thyroid med cure your depression, but the metabolic issues caused by being hypothyroid are not fixed by a few days on medication. It just does not work that way.

Being treated for a vitamin D deficiency is standard of care in mainstream medicine.
My grandson had quite a bad nervous tick a few years ago and the doctor wouldnt prescribe anything for it so I read up on tics and saw that magnesium and vit D help.. I got him a bottle of the stuff made for children from a well known health store, and within two days the tics stopped.... so it says a lot for vitamins...
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Old 06-05-2018, 09:10 AM
 
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The person to whom I was responding has specifically stated in other threads that she is not interested in science and persists in telling stories about her family as if their experiences outweigh the science. No, personal stories are not scientific data. If 100 people were to post in this thread and 60 had positive experiences and 40 had less than satisfactory results, that would still not be scientific data, because the people posting here on CD are unlikely to be representative of the whole country. The people most likely to post are those who have had bad experiences, and very often the split is not 60 positive to 40 negative, it's 999 (or more) to 1 when it is studied properly. Do you really think drug companies want to make and doctors want to prescribe meds that harm people?
I'm just asking that you quit trying to shut down the 40% (or 1%) that had different results.

I really don't care about the science either if you only reference the 60%. When my family has different results than the majority, it may help others who are also having similar puzzling or negative issues.

Just like my youngest daughter who was in the 1% who almost died from an ankle to hip blood clot from birth control pills and more recently, my oldest daughter who was suffering for several weeks and sent for test after test after test for fecal impaction until finally the doctors decided it was the Metformin, that another doctor said was unnecessary anyway. This is real life for a minority of the patients who take approved prescriptions.

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Old 06-05-2018, 09:39 AM
 
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Old 06-05-2018, 10:39 AM
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I know you believe the thyroid med cure your depression, but the metabolic issues caused by being hypothyroid are not fixed by a few days on medication. It just does not work that way.

Being treated for a vitamin D deficiency is standard of care in mainstream medicine.
You have no idea what worked for me. Please don't say what I experienced. And I was not given Syn levo med, I was given Armour, big difference in the formulas. I would not touch levo stuff.

As for standard of care on Vit D, it took years of getting the info out to the public about the D deficiency in our population and especially those not living in sunny areas and not being in the sun...even today it's not in the standard testing in labwork. And I'm sure plenty are still Vit D deficient. And even those living in sunny climates they are not out basking in the sun,,,,not much sun at the computers. And many people cannot tolerate a lot of sun, my family were not sunworshippers...they got their sun growing foods in their gardens. And that was limited, no gardens in the winter.

The sicker our population, the more $$$$ for pharma.

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Old 06-05-2018, 11:02 AM
 
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You have no idea what worked for me. Please don't say what I experienced. And I was not given syn levo med, I was given Armour, big difference in the formulas. I would not touch levo stuff.

As for standard of care on Vit D, it took years of getting the info out to the public about the D deficiency in our population and especially those not living in sunny areas and not being in the sun...even today it's not in the standard testing in labwork. And I'm sure plenty are still Vit D deficient. And even those living in sunny climates they are not out basking in the sun,,,,not much sun at the computers.

The sicker our population, the more $$$$ for pharma.
It usually takes a very long time to get mainstream medicine to accept any natural healing ideas. When they finally accept it, they claim it was their idea all along.

For example, holistic health advocates were talking about diet and exercise for decades before mainstream medicine started to think it might be important.

Metabolic syndrome is now mainstream, but the idea started long ago with holistic doctors.

Mainstream medicine is still primarily about drugs, and probably always will be. But the public is starting to wake up.
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Old 06-05-2018, 11:19 AM
 
Location: too far from the sea
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My grandson had quite a bad nervous tick a few years ago and the doctor wouldnt prescribe anything for it so I read up on tics and saw that magnesium and vit D help.. I got him a bottle of the stuff made for children from a well known health store, and within two days the tics stopped.... so it says a lot for vitamins...
Yes, a lot of these nervous tics are due to magnesium deficiency. Foods that can deplete magnesium are soda and coffee, so if someone is consuming those, the magnesium could help. I've also read that magnesium could have helped when some of these sports stars suddenly drop dead of a heart attack when there was "nothing wrong with them."

It's the same when my husband's restless leg syndrome was cured with zinc. The dr had him on some horrible expensive prescription with side effects. Drs don't usually check for magnesium deficiency and it has to be tested within the cell, not in the blood. Zinc is really hard to test for. Some problems are simply due to a deficiency and can easily be remedied.
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