Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Basically there rules on pain meds and the doctor must follow them. I know more than one person who got hooked and had to come down even tho they felt normal .When they quite is when problems started kind of like smoking withdrawals. There are other pain meds to relieve discomfort.
For the basic light opiate user, withdraw consists of being in a bad mood for about a week - maybe a little loss of sleep for a couple nights.....and that's it.
For the Rush Limbaughs and Keith Richards of the world....it may take 3 weeks and involve sweats and lots of other unpleasantness.
But for those on basic medium duty vicodin, etc......almost no withdraw at all.
My sister in law had to have an emergency root canal about two years ago. By the time she got to CVS to get her prescription filled she looked like a full on drug addict from the pain she was in and not sleeping for 3 or 4 days because of the pain, her 3 children under the age of ten years old driving her crazy, plus the the root canal she had to endure it equals to a disheveled looking, no patience in pain person, which just happen to be what most drug addicts jonesing look like and CVS wouldn't fill her prescription because they thought it was a forgery despite it being logged on the data base as prescribed by a Dentist.
After a few phone calls the script was filled but She was not happy about how she was treated and I don't blame her one bit.
A few years ago I needed over the counter Sinus medicine and went to a Duane Reade and had to show an ID to purchase it, as per they're policy. I refused and walked out. It's a total violation of privacy. I wound up buying it somewhere else. From what I understand now it's required to show an ID when buying certain over the counter medicines. It's ridiculous.
My sister in law had to have an emergency root canal about two years ago. By the time she got to CVS to get her prescription filled she looked like a full on drug addict from the pain she was in and not sleeping for 3 or 4 days because of the pain, her 3 children under the age of ten years old driving her crazy, plus the the root canal she had to endure it equals to a disheveled looking, no patience in pain person, which just happen to be what most drug addicts jonesing look like and CVS wouldn't fill her prescription because they thought it was a forgery despite it being logged on the data base as prescribed by a Dentist.
After a few phone calls the script was filled but She was not happy about how she was treated and I don't blame her one bit.
A few years ago I needed over the counter Sinus medicine and went to a Duane Reade and had to show an ID to purchase it, as per they're policy. I refused and walked out. It's a total violation of privacy. I wound up buying it somewhere else. From what I understand now it's required to show an ID when buying certain over the counter medicines. It's ridiculous.
Unless there's something missing from the equation that you're not posting, your sister in law's situation isn't really very believable. Painkillers following a root canal are intended to be filled the day of the procedure, not 3 or 4 days later. By the 4th day, there should be no pain at all, except perhaps from the injection site for the lidocaine shots. And even then, it's a general soreness, not something you'd need any painkillers for.
The number of pills prescribed are intended to last from the day of the procedure, to a few days after. They're not intended to last from a few days after, to a few days after that. So it stands to reason the pharmacy would be suspicious that it was a stolen scrip, or a doctor-hopper situation where she already had a filled prescription somewhere else and was just looking to add to her stash.
As for sinus medication - there are certain sinus medications that are technically OTC in that they don't require a prescription, but are not available on the shelves. You have to provide an ID in order to buy them. This isn't anything new, it's been that way for years.
Go to a pharmacist you trust and have a conversation about what the doctor is trying to give you, do your homework
So very much this! There is so much misinformation in this thread it's ridiculous, especially in blaming a pharmacist or tech for laws and regulations they have no control over. Don't like those rules that's fine, but to give grief to the people who are obligated to follow those rules is ignorant.
It's about as stupid as the clueless folks who scream at the pharmacy for the co-pays and rules their insurance companies have in place.
So very much this! There is so much misinformation in this thread it's ridiculous, especially in blaming a pharmacist or tech for laws and regulations they have no control over. Don't like those rules that's fine, but to give grief to the people who are obligated to follow those rules is ignorant.
It's about as stupid as the clueless folks who scream at the pharmacy for the co-pays and rules their insurance companies have in place.
What people need to understand is the Doctors and now Pharmacists are scared,tired,fed up with the constant visits from the DEA,State license control boards and local Narcotic Police. My Pharmacist friend (who happens to be the owner of his Pharmacy) gets visits from all of the above, more often the DEA. I've been there when they've "appeared" and I can tell you they are NOT very personable or even polite for that matter.
His records have always been in order, interestingly usually they're investigating a pain clinic doctor or a patient but treat him like he's the criminal. I remember once when they dinged him for not having a couple of initials on a drug log page, clearly an oversight and a minor issue but wanted to assert their power.
Doctors get the same treatment with Feds (not doctors btw) coming in and routinely questioning their judgement and treatments, taking up their valuable time not to mention making them feel as though their license is in constant jeopardy. Over the years my docs have told me that they have to be careful about how many pain meds they prescribe, sometimes deciding not to help someone as much as they could for fear of setting off red flags at the DEA and having to spend a bunch of time defending their (correct) actions.
It's not like the DEA interviews the patient or has in depth experience with the patient to see if the doctor was correct.
Now we have a climate where doc's are going to an extreme in the direction of satisfying the DEA/State and to hell with the patient. A prime example is my wife's grandmother who at the tender age of 97, in moderate pain, was told by her doctor "I can't prescribe you anymore Vicodin, you might become addicted". SERIOUSLY???? Who cares at 97 years old?
The State knows best, don't ever,ever forget that!
Unless there's something missing from the equation that you're not posting, your sister in law's situation isn't really very believable. Painkillers following a root canal are intended to be filled the day of the procedure, not 3 or 4 days later. By the 4th day, there should be no pain at all, except perhaps from the injection site for the lidocaine shots. And even then, it's a general soreness, not something you'd need any painkillers for.
The number of pills prescribed are intended to last from the day of the procedure, to a few days after. They're not intended to last from a few days after, to a few days after that. So it stands to reason the pharmacy would be suspicious that it was a stolen scrip, or a doctor-hopper situation where she already had a filled prescription somewhere else and was just looking to add to her stash.
As for sinus medication - there are certain sinus medications that are technically OTC in that they don't require a prescription, but are not available on the shelves. You have to provide an ID in order to buy them. This isn't anything new, it's been that way for years.
By the time she went to the dentist for the root canal it has been 3 or 4 days of her in pain. She went to get fill the script the same day of the procedure.
My experience was a few years ago, which i stated in my original post. Go back and re-read it.
A few years ago I needed over the counter Sinus medicine and went to a Duane Reade and had to show an ID to purchase it, as per they're policy. I refused and walked out. It's a total violation of privacy. I wound up buying it somewhere else. From what I understand now it's required to show an ID when buying certain over the counter medicines. It's ridiculous.
By the time she went to the dentist for the root canal it has been 3 or 4 days of her in pain. She went to get fill the script the same day of the procedure.
My experience was a few years ago, which i stated in my original post. Go back and re-read it.
I did. The law that puts certain sinus meds behind the counter and requires an ID to purchase was passed in 2005 and the final phase of it was implemented in March 2006, nine years ago. Nine isn't even almost kind of a little bit of "a few." As I said - these meds haven't been available on the shelf without an ID for years. Your experience "a few years ago" demonstrates that you didn't notice the national news articles, the protests, raves and rants, political fallout, and pretty significant news hew and cry about this issue, back when the law was passed in 2005 - ten years ago.
OP is in Florida, which has gone so far overboard in its attempt to shut down pill mills, that now legitimate pain patients can't get their medication. Walgreen's has a secret checklist that allows their pharmacists to decide whether you should be red-flagged, which means you are permanently flagged at all Walgreen's. They can do this even if you have a legitimate prescription from a legitimate pain management clinic, without talking to your doctor. They can do this if THEY think you're taking too much medication, or have been taking it too long, and they don't have to give you a reason.
So now you have to find a non-Walgreen's that carries the medication and is willing to fill it. Good luck with that. Driving around to pharmacies, getting turned down, going back to the doctor for help, getting a list of pharmacies that you've just been to.....it's insane. I know other states also have cracked down and it may not be easy, but Florida has gone too far and even my doctor agrees.
And please, for those of you saying chronic spinal pain patients should suck it up, go swimming, take herbs, get epidurals or oh, go have back surgery (which didn't work for me, doesn't work for a lot of people and many times makes things worse): Please don't judge anyone unless you too have had the pleasure of unrelenting fiery nerve pain shooting down your leg 24/7, numb/tingling extremities, not being able to stand on your feet for more than five minutes, and other fun things that result from degenerated and collapsed disks.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
SERIOUSLY???? Who cares at 97 years old?
