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Old 04-10-2015, 04:12 PM
 
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Talk to your doctor. You shouldn't be taking recommendations from strangers or ill-advised "medical students".
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You are getting some poor advice here and asking questions that people aren't qualified to answer. See an Orthopaedic Specialist and don't look for advice from anonymous strangers no matter how well intentioned..
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Old 04-10-2015, 06:10 PM
 
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I'm an athlete so i think i will need my ligaments to be attached properly. So i'm going to request surgery at my next follow-up. Doing PT cannot heal fully torn ligaments right? I think all PT does is allow the rest of the ligaments/muscles to compensate for the lack of the other ligaments.
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Old 04-10-2015, 06:15 PM
 
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You are getting some poor advice here and asking questions that people aren't qualified to answer. See an Orthopaedic Specialist and don't look for advice from anonymous strangers no matter how well intentioned..
I already saw him twice. I have a follow up appt in 3 weeks.
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Old 04-10-2015, 06:34 PM
 
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Yeah...this is absolutely the WORST advice possible....

Physical therapists have a much better understanding of the pathophysiology and treatment of ankle sprains than you do and while "you" may not think the ankle is ready, "they" know better.

Prolonged rest is the worst possible treatment for an ankle sprain, after the initial few days, when weight can be tolerated comfortable, functional rehabilitation with EARLY range of motion and strengthening is the way to go and results in far better outcomes than prolonged rest/non weight bearing.
Hi bluedevil,
I don't take this personally at all.
I'm sorry... you don't know my background, never really mentioned
my 33 years in the medical field (oh, the knee stories) or my own 3 ankle sprains...I think
I told him to be careful...
not to NOT ever see a PT.
They consistently ask for too much from an injured person when they need
just 2-3 weeks more time to heal the ligaments. That's all.
PT's have that tendency to rush things, lemme tell ya, I know.
We can agree to not agree on that.
I will not ask you your experience.
(You don't have to believe mine, of course, it's ok. 33 years is really a long time.)

But, he will see that for himself. And good luck to him.
I could have said... while resting it, always be slowly and easily moving it a bit
more each day in all directions....you don't just 'lay there' with ice 15 min. on and off.
I was being more sympathetic than I should have been, I guess.
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Old 04-11-2015, 09:01 PM
 
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Although I sprained my ankle repeatedly, I never dislocated it as you did. You have a very serious injury. The sprains do make the ankle look deformed due to the swelling. I keep a pair of crutches handy. With a bad sprain, whether ankle, or knee, the crutches can really help for a few days. From what I understand, the torn and stretched ligaments is the same as a sprain. Have had this in both my right ankle and my right knee. The knee injury I have had is a torn meniscus. Very painful and it takes a long time to heal. You want to get to where you can walk around and function though. I would avoid any further running or stress for a much longer period of time. My experience has been that if you do too much too soon, you will re injure it and start over. When I have done this, I usually get a pop or snap in the joint and you know right away something is wrong. My right ankle would sprain very easily. Uneven concrete would do it. After many sprains, I could walk it off in a relatively short amount of time. Not sure if surgery will really improve the situation for you. Your doctor will have an idea on that. My doctor has advised me to avoid surgery as long as I can. It the joint is catching or popping a lot, surgery may be needed. Might try an ankle wrap to help stabilize it. Really want to avoid additional injury to it. If you are athletic, this can be very frustrating because you are going to want to go back to your normal activity level.
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Old 04-13-2015, 07:46 AM
 
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I'm an athlete so i think i will need my ligaments to be attached properly. So i'm going to request surgery at my next follow-up. Doing PT cannot heal fully torn ligaments right? I think all PT does is allow the rest of the ligaments/muscles to compensate for the lack of the other ligaments.
You're a medical student and you have to ask these questions???
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Old 04-13-2015, 08:56 AM
 
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I'm an athlete so i think i will need my ligaments to be attached properly. So i'm going to request surgery at my next follow-up. Doing PT cannot heal fully torn ligaments right? I think all PT does is allow the rest of the ligaments/muscles to compensate for the lack of the other ligaments.
I worry about the state of medical education, if you, a first-year med student, don't know the answer to this question. You need to return to Anatomy/Physiology 101.
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Old 04-13-2015, 05:07 PM
 
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You're a medical student and you have to ask these questions???
First year...I have two other close friends (not the residents that i'm showing below) that are also in med school and they couldn't answer those questions either. I mean I know that fibrous scar tissue will be deposited.

EDIT: This is what my ER resident friend had to say


And this is what the anesthesiology resident friend (that popped in my ankle) had to say:

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Old 04-13-2015, 05:47 PM
 
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Well since none of your medical school friends, nor yourself, can figure out the answer, I'll let you in on a layman's secret:

The decision to have surgery for a torn ligament is not yours alone. You can't just go into the surgicenter and tell the receptionist, "I'll take one lateral reconstruction to go please. Might as well make it a large and add a fry, no salt."

Your doctor has to actually suggest it before you can agree to have it. Not us here on the internet, not your medical friends, not your resident pal.

These are questions you should have asked your Orthopedist, the second time you saw him. It doesn't take three weeks to make a recommendation for treatment of a sprained ankle with torn ligaments. You don't need to be a medical student to know that - any layman who's ever had a sprained ankle and gone to a doctor, or is the mother of a kid who's had one, or the child of a mom who's had one, or the neighbor of some random guy who's had one, knows this.
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Old 04-14-2015, 07:21 AM
 
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First year...I have two other close friends (not the residents that i'm showing below) that are also in med school and they couldn't answer those questions either. I mean I know that fibrous scar tissue will be deposited.

EDIT: This is what my ER resident friend had to say


And this is what the anesthesiology resident friend (that popped in my ankle) had to say:
That's just scary.
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