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Old 12-10-2015, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Many may not have even heard of the alternate theory of disease by Bechamp so here is a comparison:
GERM THEORY (PASTEUR)
1. Disease arises from micro-organisms outside the body.
2. Micro-organisms are generally to be guarded against.
3. The function of micro-organisms is constant.
4. The shapes and colours of micro-organisms are constant.
5. Every disease is associated with a particular micro-organism.
6. Micro-organisms are primary causal agents.
7. Disease can "strike" anybody.
8. To prevent disease we have to "build defences."

CELLULAR THEORY (BÉCHAMP)
1. Disease arises from micro-organisms within the cells of the body.
2.These intracellular micro-organisms normally function to build and assist in the metabolic processes of the body.
3. The function of these organisms changes to assist in the catabolic (disintegration) processes of the host organism when that organism dies or is injured, which may be chemical as well as mechanical.
4. Micro-organisms change their shapes and colours to reflect the medium.
5. Every disease is associated with a particular condition.
6. Micro-organisms become "pathogenic" as the health of the host organism deteriorates. Hence, the condition of the host organism is the primary causal agent.
7. Disease is built by unhealthy conditions.
8. To prevent disease we have to create health.
Source

Pasteur is most well know for pasteurization but also devised vaccines for anthrax and rabies (which killed numerous cattle and people).

Bechamp is not known at all unless you count writings in medical journals and his accusation (proven) that Pasteur plagiarized his work and presented it with false conclusions. Bechamp was the first to prove that yeast is airborne which led to fermentation of sugary solutions. This is what Pasteur stole to create the Germ theory. Yet Bechamp went on to prove that there are tiny living particles that change into germs (bacteria, yeast, fungi) as needed within the body.

"While Bechamp spent years proving that germs were the consequence of disease and not the cause, Pasteur’s theory was much simpler and highly profitable. It made economic sense. It made money." Source

If Bernard and Bechamp were right then "germs" are actually beneficial and can morph into yeast, fungus, and bacteria which in turn aids the body in many ways.

"Another problem with the Germ Theory of medicine is discovered when we look at Koch’s Postulates as they apply to Pasteur's experiments:
  • The bacteria must be present in every case of the disease.
  • The bacteria must be isolated from the host with the disease and grown in pure culture.
  • The specific disease must be reproduced when a pure culture of the bacteria is inoculated into a healthy susceptible host.
  • The bacteria must be recoverable from the experimentally infected host." Source
We all know that there are cases where the bacteria was not found in cases where symptoms of disease occur (it is them promptly dismissed as not that disease) and has been found where cases of disease are absent (the person is then found to be an asymptomatic carrier, conveniently). How can a person take the germ theory seriously?

Consider e.coli... it is found in everyone. EVERYONE. Yet when someone has symptoms then it is considered a dis-ease caused by e.coli. E.coli actually has a purpose in the body in waste processing and food absorption!

If you read up on the history of all of this, you will also find that Carnegie and Rockefeller changed the way Doctors were schooled/educated (mechanics used to make more than doctors) and helped fund "research" into pharmaceuticals to "cure disease by eliminating germs." If germs don't cause disease then the billion dollar industry would suffer. Is this why we don't hear about the alternate theory?

Thoughts?

NOTE: This was a thread in Alternative Medicine which was closed twice for "bickering" which I would classify as discussion but even so... please keep it to an amicable discourse!

 
Old 12-10-2015, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
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Not all sickness is caused by bacteria...viruses play a HUGE role in many of our "sicknesses"! It's both...
 
Old 12-10-2015, 06:23 PM
 
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Germ theory denialists can never be convinced otherwise...

So, best to close this thread as well.
 
Old 12-10-2015, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Mostly in my head
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Saying "the truth" is misleading. "Your truth" would be more accurate. Opinions are like a*holes, everyone has one and thinks theirs is the best.
 
Old 12-10-2015, 07:45 PM
 
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Originally Posted by katjonjj View Post
Many may not have even heard of the alternate theory of disease by Bechamp so here is a comparison:
GERM THEORY (PASTEUR)
1. Disease arises from micro-organisms outside the body.
2. Micro-organisms are generally to be guarded against.
3. The function of micro-organisms is constant.
4. The shapes and colours of micro-organisms are constant.
5. Every disease is associated with a particular micro-organism.
6. Micro-organisms are primary causal agents.
7. Disease can "strike" anybody.
8. To prevent disease we have to "build defences."

CELLULAR THEORY (BÉCHAMP)
1. Disease arises from micro-organisms within the cells of the body.
2.These intracellular micro-organisms normally function to build and assist in the metabolic processes of the body.
3. The function of these organisms changes to assist in the catabolic (disintegration) processes of the host organism when that organism dies or is injured, which may be chemical as well as mechanical.
4. Micro-organisms change their shapes and colours to reflect the medium.
5. Every disease is associated with a particular condition.
6. Micro-organisms become "pathogenic" as the health of the host organism deteriorates. Hence, the condition of the host organism is the primary causal agent.
7. Disease is built by unhealthy conditions.
8. To prevent disease we have to create health.
Source

Pasteur is most well know for pasteurization but also devised vaccines for anthrax and rabies (which killed numerous cattle and people).

Bechamp is not known at all unless you count writings in medical journals and his accusation (proven) that Pasteur plagiarized his work and presented it with false conclusions. Bechamp was the first to prove that yeast is airborne which led to fermentation of sugary solutions. This is what Pasteur stole to create the Germ theory. Yet Bechamp went on to prove that there are tiny living particles that change into germs (bacteria, yeast, fungi) as needed within the body.

"While Bechamp spent years proving that germs were the consequence of disease and not the cause, Pasteur’s theory was much simpler and highly profitable. It made economic sense. It made money." Source

If Bernard and Bechamp were right then "germs" are actually beneficial and can morph into yeast, fungus, and bacteria which in turn aids the body in many ways.

"Another problem with the Germ Theory of medicine is discovered when we look at Koch’s Postulates as they apply to Pasteur's experiments:
  • The bacteria must be present in every case of the disease.
  • The bacteria must be isolated from the host with the disease and grown in pure culture.
  • The specific disease must be reproduced when a pure culture of the bacteria is inoculated into a healthy susceptible host.
  • The bacteria must be recoverable from the experimentally infected host." Source
We all know that there are cases where the bacteria was not found in cases where symptoms of disease occur (it is them promptly dismissed as not that disease) and has been found where cases of disease are absent (the person is then found to be an asymptomatic carrier, conveniently). How can a person take the germ theory seriously?

Consider e.coli... it is found in everyone. EVERYONE. Yet when someone has symptoms then it is considered a dis-ease caused by e.coli. E.coli actually has a purpose in the body in waste processing and food absorption!

If you read up on the history of all of this, you will also find that Carnegie and Rockefeller changed the way Doctors were schooled/educated (mechanics used to make more than doctors) and helped fund "research" into pharmaceuticals to "cure disease by eliminating germs." If germs don't cause disease then the billion dollar industry would suffer. Is this why we don't hear about the alternate theory?

Thoughts?

NOTE: This was a thread in Alternative Medicine which was closed twice for "bickering" which I would classify as discussion but even so... please keep it to an amicable discourse!

There is no "amicable discourse" when discussing nonsense....

Denying germ theory is analogous with denying the earth's rotation around the sun or denying the past existence of dinosaurs...or evolution

Its scientifically implausible and naive beyond description to deny the germ theory which is no more "theory" than the "theory" of gravitational pull...

Bechamp died over 100 years ago...there is NO evidence, NONE, NADA to support his ridiculous notions of pleomorpism....it doesn't exist in nature to explain disease

We have over 100 years and literally thousands of studies that unequivocally support the germ theory, there is no "alternate" theory it is FACT. We don't hear about an "alternate theory" because only crackpots think one exists...

There is no reason for this nonsensical thread to exist either.....


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