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Old 02-04-2016, 08:03 AM
 
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Oh, so now they've snuck the others in for adults? Thanks for the info. Wasn't aware. I guess adults will now be getting more side effects to vaccines like the kids do. The DTap is an uncomfortable vaccine for sure. The swelling lasts a while and I guess with an infection to boot she'll take a bit to recover.

Look on the bright side missik999. At least it isn't a flesh eating bacteria.
Tdap is recommended once for adults then after that the recommendation is for Td every ten years.

The Tdap recommendation stems from the pertussis outbreaks in schools, I believe,and increase in pertussis in general. In the area where I live there have been quite a few pertussis outbreaks in high schools.

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Old 02-04-2016, 08:07 AM
 
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At this point Benadryl won't help. It's intended to work quickly, not three days after the fact. Since you work in the medical field you'll have lots of access to literature about medicine, which most people already know plenty about since it's a common item found in household cabinets throughout the USA.

I'm also surprised you didn't know that an infection is one of the possible side-effects of the TDaP/Tdap injection, being in the medical field as you are. I didn't know about it til I read this thread, but I'm not in the medical field. Also, I got the DPT shot when I was a kid because that's what people got back then. That's the one that most people got on the deltoid muscle, some of us (like me) got under our arm near our armpit, and left a strange roundish scar that looks like a very small daisy with a central scar surrounded by a circle of other tiny scars, totalling the size of a nickel. I've since had only two tetanus boosters, but one was to get into college, and the other was when I was a "tween" and stepped on a rusty nail sticking up out of a sandbox. Still not a TDaP, or Tdap (they're different things), just a Td booster. Painful shot which kept my arm sore for a couple of days, and the bruise took maybe 5 days total to go away.
Our clinc gives hundreds of Tdap and Td injections every year and we've never had a patient with this type of reaction. Even the doc and NPs were surprised.

The injection that was given back in the 50s and 60s that left a scar was for smallpox.
 
Old 02-04-2016, 08:26 AM
 
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Oh, so now they've snuck the others in for adults? Thanks for the info. Wasn't aware. I guess adults will now be getting more side effects to vaccines like the kids do. The DTap is an uncomfortable vaccine for sure. The swelling lasts a while and I guess with an infection to boot she'll take a bit to recover.

Look on the bright side missik999. At least it isn't a flesh eating bacteria.
Maybe you'd prefer your jaw to swell shut. I have a great uncle who was buried at 9 years old because of tetanus. I'm sure he'd prefer to have a sore and swollen arm.
 
Old 02-04-2016, 04:36 PM
 
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Yep, it use to be only tetanus, but they now added a booster for adults for diphtheria and pertussis. It's the only was they can get adults to immunize for the latter two. Tetanus is medically recommended for most injuries that cut the skin and taken as a preventative every 10 years.
No, the vaccine for adults used to be TD, diptheria and tetanus. They added pertussis in about ten years ago. I have had several TDs and one TDaP, and they all hurt the same amount. As I understand it, it's the tetanus portion which causes that ache.
 
Old 02-04-2016, 04:55 PM
 
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Our clinc gives hundreds of Tdap and Td injections every year and we've never had a patient with this type of reaction. Even the doc and NPs were surprised.

The injection that was given back in the 50s and 60s that left a scar was for smallpox.
Yes, the scar was from smallpox vax. My parents generation (1920's) got the smallpox vax in their arms. My generation (1940's/50's) got the vax in our legs. My scar just disappeared in my 60's.

We got those series of DTP (not given today) in early childhood; not boosters into teen years. I haven't had any other boosters for that since I was first vaccinated in the 1950's. No BAD cuts requiring ER visits, or a PCP to tell me I MUST every 10 years. Certainly no booster for the "Pertussis" (Tdap) element which only came out in 2005.
 
Old 02-04-2016, 05:02 PM
 
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Maybe you'd prefer your jaw to swell shut. I have a great uncle who was buried at 9 years old because of tetanus. I'm sure he'd prefer to have a sore and swollen arm.
My kitchen knives are sterilized in a dishwasher. I do not dig in or cut myself in soil where HORSES have been. Given all that at age 67, my chances are very, very slim to get "lockjaw".
 
Old 02-04-2016, 05:09 PM
 
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I stand corrected on the scar, you're right miss and Jo! It was the smallpox vaccine. I definitely did get the DTP vaccine as well, that was in the deltoid muscle. The smallpox scar I have is right next to my armpit. And like Jo I got no "scheduled" boosters for the DTP. Just additional tetanus shots for college and after stepping on a rusty nail.

Also didn't get the MMR vaccine, by the time it was available in the "trifecta" form of MMR, in 1971, I'd already had the measles so it seemed pretty pointless.

Regardless - the patient information for the Tdap states that infection is a possible, though uncommon, side effect. This is why I was surprised, miss, that you posted your query here at all, since you are someone who administers these vaccines and if a patient can find this stuff out, you should have been able to as well.
 
Old 02-04-2016, 05:27 PM
 
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My kitchen knives are sterilized in a dishwasher. I do not dig in or cut myself in soil where HORSES have been. Given all that at age 67, my chances are very, very slim to get "lockjaw".
If you ever cut yourself and have to get staples, they'll want to give you a tetanus shot first. I broke a dish and cut my leg and had to have a tetanus shot and four staples. The shot felt worse than the staples
 
Old 02-04-2016, 06:12 PM
 
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So.. tetanus shot isn't a separate thing anymore? I know it used to be 10 yrs. recommended so once I stabbed my hand with wire and had to get my first one (that I can recall), and my arm looked like it had half a softball embedded, I waited 10 yr. (same reaction) - now it will be 4 yrs. for the next. I think I'm dreading it now.
 
Old 02-04-2016, 07:20 PM
 
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I work in the medical field and have given probably hundreds of injections over the past 15 years. I've seen small bruises, tenderness and redness as fairly common minor issues at the injection sites of our patients.

I cut my hand at work and my employer had me file a worker's comp claim. The doctor I was referred to ordered a Tdap injection.

Within a day after receiving the injection my deltoid became very swollen, and there is a huge knot at the injection site nearly the size of a tennis ball. My fingers are numb and my entire arm is very sore.

Another doctor diagnosed the reaction as an infection from the injection. I'm on antibiotics now and so far the swelling hasn't improved, three days later.

I'm not on any meds (until now, that is) and not allergic to anything and in good health.

Has anyone ever experienced a similar vaccine reaction?
This makes no sense to me unless the vaccine or needle was contaminated. Is this what the doctor said? I mean, exactly what are you infected with? Was there a culture done?
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